Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[Kenok]

Just let people do their job rather*

[Venjenz]

I have no idea why someone, healer or otherwise, would want to just stand around for periods of time doing nothing while their comrades in arms are not in harms way but are doing everything they can to get through the dungeon and support their fellow team mates. I for one would find it ungodly boring and very disrespectful to not contribute.

This is of course my opinion and people may argue it, but why stop contributing to the group? Even the dps pushing one button is at least contributing.

I agree with this mostly, but it does read like doing dps is the only way to contribute to a group, when tanking, healing and support are actual functions that also contribute.

That said, I agree with the theory of why would you want to just stand around doing nothing when those down periods occur? Like someone else said in another thread on this, rule 1 is that there is always a button you can press that could help out somehow.

[technole]

It's pretty easy to tell a healer is being lazy in easy/dungeon content compared to tanks/DPS. You just never see Cleric Stance ever turn-on, and if they do try to do damage without it today it's so nimble that it never makes a difference. It's like you have a painted bullseye if you are a lazy healer, it's so obvious.

DPS sometimes you can't always tell right away. Aside from parsing methods.

Tanks you can sort of tell if they can keep things going without tank stances and using cooldown mitigation. Still, tanks do damage regardless, whether it's optimal or not, you can't always tell without parsing.

DRGs that never have Heavy Thrust up, never use or let Blood of the Dragon. You can tell is being lazy.

BRD/MCH is a little harder cause even if they have Barrel/Minuet up, you can't always follow their DoTs are up or falling off without looking closely, or they keep losing damage by not doing damage on-the-move.

[Aramina]

Is it bad that I pray at some point they do massively increase the healing demands just to see what happens?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

But-But-But... why else am I gonna let my party intentionally wipe if I don't spend my entire time dpsing? The healer must dps meta is my excuse to not heal my groups, without that excuse I'll have to actually do my jerb...

[Kleeya]

Meanwhile in world maps, apart for a few situations where i dont need heals, i put my chocobo on healer-only mode 95% of the time because he has a bad habit to dps like a retard instead of healing me when i need it right now

I wonder how many posts this topic will get in the end, seems like i need to get my pop corn bags.

[Len]

It makes me cringe when I run a dungeon with a healer that's shielded the tank, applied a regen, and then just stands there not casting anything. And then you see their character rotate and turn a little all while doing nothing.

I've just used Deathflare. Aetherflow's on cooldown. The enemies still have 20% health. The other DPS is of course a dragoon (). We could have cleared this pack by now with even just minimal AoE from the healer.

[Shougun]

Interesting, I mean I'm not shocked but in /normal/ content (that I have done with healer before, maybe it'll change in expansion) if I didn't have to DD I would say that healer role is the easiest role in the game. There is so much downtime if you use your HoTs/heals when you're not already dying, don't wait to be dead lol.

I personally don't rage quit if a healer stays on top of the party, because this normal content doesn't really need their damage AND it can make really large pulls super casual comfortable which is nice lol (don't even have to think about HG, although I'd probably use it anyways haha) but please.. if you're going to play pure healer then do that , Keep everyone up and running strong. I've seen quite a few people who don't DD and some how everyone is in the yellow for minutes at a time in the easy level content (its not like a big spell just came by and smacked us, that of course makes sense).

I've never kicked a healer for not DDing since it didn't really ruin the run, especially as I'm doing all casual content lol (I've told SMN to stop being annoying with their Titan Egi though lol); however, I can imagine in the harder content a healer doing DD is going to significantly be higher valued to the point if you don't DD you will likely be kicked. If you told them at the gate they'd just not invite you, and if they find you're that style in the content they'd just kick you.

Maybe the team doesn't design around it but the value of a healer who does vs one who does not is a pretty big difference when every % counts (like I'm not worried we will fail normal mode dungeon, but people will be counting % in savage/ex/savage+ because that's the sort of content it is). Perhaps if they made content that made you cure like no tomorrow people would warm up to the idea more, but it doesn't look like that's a popular content design.

[technole]

Yep, I even seen a lot of posts about the loss of stone skin like it's the worst thing in the world. I'm like why do you care about it so much? Was it because all you ever did was use it every pull and tried to keep it up on the tank as an excuse not to DPS? It'd be funny because you'd see healers only use regen and stone skin buttons.

Tank busters are survived on cooldown mitigation and shielding healers, stone skin was crap ever since graniteskin was taken away.

[YanDere]

It's pretty easy to tell a healer is being lazy in easy/dungeon content compared to tanks/DPS. You just never see Cleric Stance ever turn-on, and if they do try to do damage without it today it's so nimble that it never makes a difference. It's like you have a painted bullseye if you are a lazy healer, it's so obvious.

DPS sometimes you can't always tell right away. Aside from parsing methods.

Tanks you can sort of tell if they can keep things going without tank stances and using cooldown mitigation. Still, tanks do damage regardless, whether it's optimal or not, you can't always tell without parsing.

DRGs that never have Heavy Thrust up, never use or let Blood of the Dragon. You can tell is being lazy.

BRD/MCH is a little harder cause even if they have Barrel/Minuet up, you can't always follow their DoTs are up or falling off without looking closely, or they keep losing damage by not doing damage on-the-move.

But tanks and dps don't sit on their buttocks looking at others, do they.
You have minutes of free time during fights, use that time to help the team.

But-But-But... why else am I gonna let my party intentionally wipe if I don't spend my entire time dpsing? The healer must dps meta is my excuse to not heal my groups, without that excuse I'll have to actually do my jerb...

A healer that doesn't heal is just as bad as a healer that doesn't dps. If you can't do both in a casual dungeon, you are bad and unwilling to improve.
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