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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
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    Can you give any reason as to why you wouldn't DPS when you have the opportunity to do so, other than lack of skill?
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    Last edited by Lunaxia; 06-07-2017 at 05:29 PM.

  2. #102
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    Erys Shir'en
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Blah blah blah healing is the only thing healers do
    This is FF my friend, where healers have access to one of the two most powerful elemental spells in the whole franchise. Holy. Where healers will spend their turns attacking and buffing their allies until several turns of damage come.
    Also in d&d healers primary role is damage, because if you heal mid battle you get killed by attacks of oportunity. And spells are not free, the sooner something is dead the less you have to cast and rest.
    Pure healers are just a lazy concept unless there's massive damage incoming to keep you healing 100% of the time. And I can bet my life on it that this wouldn't make dungeons clearable with the community as it is right now. Just saying.
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  3. #103
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post

    Would you kick out a drg doing heavy thrust once a minute? Just heavy thrust in a full minute, nothing else but auto attack within those 58 or so other seconds.
    That's a poor example and a comparison between them 2.

    the fact is DPSing is optional as a HEALer. Get that right in your head
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  4. #104
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    Amerity Reyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erys View Post
    ... unless there's massive damage incoming to keep you healing 100% of the time. And I can bet my life on it that this wouldn't make dungeons clearable with the community as it is right now. Just saying.
    Agreed. Seeing as how I still see healers struggle with the Vault at high item levels to this day without casting a single DPS spell, this would make healing impossible for a lot of players.
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  5. #105
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    If Yoshi-P wants healers to only heal he better make healing harder. Because currently if you only heal you can play tetris and heal at the same time.
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  6. #106
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    Aya Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    That's a poor example and a comparison between them 2.

    the fact is DPSing is optional as a HEALer. Get that right in your head
    it is also optional to do the best rotations isn't it? pressing 1 button a minute is kick worthy, regardless of role. You can't tell me how I should DPS if I can't tell you how to heal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgM...youtu.be&t=557

    it is no different

    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    If Yoshi-P wants healers to only heal he better make healing harder. Because currently if you only heal you can play tetris and heal at the same time.
    alt tab while playing with games on phone while reading the forums while watching tv*
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    Last edited by Hamada; 06-07-2017 at 05:33 PM.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erys View Post
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    Pure healers are just a lazy concept
    And WHO are you to be telling others how to play their class? Specially having the AUDACITY to call them "lazy"?

    It amazes me people even dare to try to put others down for playing their class!!!

    If you are a HEALER you bloody well HEAL. I'll be well annoyed if the healer was NOT healing. THAT would be a problem.

    If I'm kept alive all the way to the end of a dungeon, to me the healer has done its job

    Get real
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  8. #108
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    I fail to see how the arguement "i strife for maximum efficiency, so everyone has to, if they don't, they lack the skill" is acceptable.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    it is also optional to do the best rotations isn't it? pressing 1 button a minute is kick worthy, regardless of role. You can't tell me how I should DPS if I can't tell you how to heal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgM...youtu.be&t=557

    it is no different



    alt tab while playing with games on phone while reading the forums while watching tv*
    We talking about HEALING here take your terrible DPS example somewhere else.
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  10. #110
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    And WHO are you to be telling others how to play their class? Specially having the AUDACITY to call them "lazy"?

    It amazes me people even dare to try to put others down for playing their class!!!

    If you are a HEALER you bloody well HEAL. I'll be well annoyed if the healer was NOT healing. THAT would be a problem.

    If I'm kept alive all the way to the end of a dungeon, to me the healer has done its job

    Get real
    You need get real, this is wha pure healing is:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    it is also optional to do the best rotations isn't it? pressing 1 button a minute is kick worthy, regardless of role. You can't tell me how I should DPS if I can't tell you how to heal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgM...youtu.be&t=557

    it is no different



    alt tab while playing with games on phone while reading the forums while watching tv*
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    We talking about HEALING here take your terrible DPS example somewhere else.
    and what is your comment about a SHIELD healer, outhealing a pure healer, while the shiled healer out dps 2 DPS, a tank, a LB, where the LB out dddps the pure healer?

    Pure healing is no skill and lazy
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