Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[Khaoticsuccubus]

I've gone into detail on how it could work as a third clan. They'd be tall than the other two clans, have longer ears and shorter/no tails and have their own animations (picture it). The difference would be like Midlanders and Highlanders... but with eyebrows.

If it's like Highlanders to Midlanders isn't that the same as just making a whole new race then? Highlanders, from a development view is basically that already. They have a unique skeleton, animations, faces, hairstyles, etc.

If they went through the trouble of doing all that why not just make it its own race? I mean, I guess I don't really need a 2nd tribe but, just seems weird. Course I think the fact that highlander is pretty much its own race is weird as well lol.

[SagaSoluna]

That's exactly what Au'ra are as well you know. Dragon kemomnomimi races are pretty common in all those mediums you mentioned as well. Special ears/horns... special tail... scales/ markings... limbal rings/slit eyes...

They are exactly the same if you want to make wide generalizations. There is no difference between calling Viera and Miqo'te the same as calling Au'ra and Miqo'te the same.

Uh, no.

Au´Ra ( Especially the males, but also the females ) have extremely different body typing, build and shape and every detail you mentioned gives them a radically different look to the Miqos.
Viera are LITERALLY bunny miqos with feral feet.



I mean, the similarity is brutally evident.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Uh, no.

Au´Ra ( Especially the males, but also the females ) have extremely different body typing, build and shape and every detail you mentioned gives them a radically different look to the Miqos.
Viera are LITERALLY bunny miqos with feral feet.



I mean, the similarity is brutally evident.

Bringing body typing, build, and shape into this? Really?

Cause, Miqo'te, midlander, and au'ra share a VERY similar build in all of those lol. Not identical but, similar.

I mean, viera themselves have a completely different body type build and shape if you want to go there. Tall and slender, elegent, digitigrade feet, and a more upturned bone structure for the face. (not comparing the male Au'ra... they are a completely separate entity from even their own races females lol)

[SagaSoluna]

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My bottom point is that simply editing the Miqos into having a third "bunny tribe" is much easier to do and therefore objectively more likely to be offered to us than pretending for them to create an entire new species of a race that it´s not even all that different from an existing one, just to please a minority of fans.

If you do not consider this to be a good compromise then it´s up your alley, what can i even say.

I particularly do not care if the Viera are added or not, i am a big fan of kemonomimi races so all the more power to me.
But you tried to make it sound like i was speaking nonsense when i was in fact not.

[Nestama]

If it's like Highlanders to Midlanders isn't that the same as just making a whole new race then? Highlanders, from a development view is basically that already. They have a unique skeleton, animations, faces, hairstyles, etc.

If they went through the trouble of doing all that why not just make it its own race? I mean, I guess I don't really need a 2nd tribe but, just seems weird. Course I think the fact that highlander is pretty much its own race is weird as well lol.

It's mostly so that it feels natural when they're added into FFXIV. Expanding on what already exists is better than plopping something into FFXIV and no, you cannot use the Ivalice raid as a way for the Viera race to be introduced as a playable race (it wouldn't make sense for a newbie to start off as a Viera, when they technically shouldn't exist until after they do the Ivalice raid. This is assuming the Ivalice raid is the Ivalice with Viera, Bangaa, Nu Mou, etc).

The only time Viera can naturally be introduced to FFXIV is 6.0. They can be introduced in 5.0 if SE shows some Viera within the Garlean army throughout 4.0. If not, then 6.0 is the only way (New World, new lore, potentially new starting point for the new race that has you eventually go to ARR zones. Imagine if the Au Ra came out in 4.0 and their starting point was in Othard and you eventually go to ARR zones when you unlock airships. That would feel less jarring than their HW introduction).

[Mature]

Really? I didn't read the quote as "its happening", I read it as "its not happening, but who knows in the future", Yoshi P won't outright say that its not happening because he doesn't want to upset the minority of players that desperately wants the race, but the quote in no way implied that it is happening.

That's how you wanted to read it. But for Yoship , he is clearly giving hints about Viera might happen and not a resounding "NO is not something we got plan for now"

The hint is there. the demand is big for a specific race whether people like it or not.

It must be tough for the kill joy and nay ones to take this info in lol

[Khaoticsuccubus]

My bottom point is that simply editing the Miqos into having a third "bunny tribe" is much easier to do and therefore objectively more likely to be offered to us than pretending for them to create an entire new species of a race that it´s not even all that different from an existing one, just to please a minority of fans.

If you do not consider this to be a good compromise then it´s up your alley, what can i even say.

I particularly do not care if the Viera are added or not, i am a big fan of kemonomimi races so all the more power to me.
But you tried to make it sound like i was speaking nonsense when i was in fact not.

I do so love it when people assume they are the majority lol.

Le sigh, What can ya do /shrug ;P

It's mostly so that it feels natural when they're added into FFXIV. Expanding on what already exists is better than plopping something into FFXIV and no, you cannot use the Ivalice raid as a way for the Viera race to be introduced as a playable race (it wouldn't make sense for a newbie to start off as a Viera, when they technically shouldn't exist until after they do the Ivalice raid. This is assuming the Ivalice raid is the Ivalice with Viera, Bangaa, Nu Mou, etc).

The only time Viera can naturally be introduced to FFXIV is 6.0. They can be introduced in 5.0 if SE shows some Viera within the Garlean army throughout 4.0. If not, then 6.0 is the only way (New World, new lore, potentially new starting point for the new race that has you eventually go to ARR zones. Imagine if the Au Ra came out in 4.0 and their starting point was in Othard and you eventually go to ARR zones when you unlock airships. That would feel less jarring than their HW introduction).

Now ya see, there is a reasonable argument.

I would argue however, that SE (assuming they maintain their methods) don't mind waving off an explanation for why we could start as Viera... they already did with Au'ra in HW. Can't see any reason they wouldn't with any other race they add. We are just random adventurer from unknown origins that everyone accepts no matter what after all lol.

And yes, while YoshiP's new comment has sparked a little hope that I might see Viera by 5.0... barring some shocking revelation in SB, the pessimistic in me agrees it prolly won't be till 6.0 if we're lucky ;(

[silentwindfr]

...The only time Viera can naturally be introduced to FFXIV is 6.0. They can be introduced in 5.0 if SE shows some Viera within the Garlean army throughout 4.0. If not, then 6.0 is the only way (New World, new lore, potentially new starting point for the new race that has you eventually go to ARR zones. Imagine if the Au Ra came out in 4.0 and their starting point was in Othard and you eventually go to ARR zones when you unlock airships. That would feel less jarring than their HW introduction).

i will not bet is not possible for the 5.0, return to ivalice can maybe have a link with dalmasca, the place in orthard conquer by the empire a long time ago... for the one don't knowing it, dalmasca is too the name of a place in ivalice. since we go to orthard, maybe we will discover that this place (that was wiped in FF12 by an ultima bomb) was maybe transfer to hyadelin and will explain why return to ivalice name for the 24 raid. introducing maybe race of ivalice... then maybe viera.

and i think like you that add them as a tribe of the miqote will be the easier way, but will be strange. who know

ps: even if i hope is something more like Lea mundis that did appear and will give us a raid that recquire us to explore this place.... god i love vagrant story :x

[Kyuuen]

Just a friendly reminder to the "put bunny ears you are a viera" team, that this is the show your support thread :B, not the "i want to play as a beastman that doesn't fit the WoL role, lore or the main public at all " thread.

Also a friendly reminder. This is an open forum meant for discussion, not echo chambers. If you don't want a topic discussed then it's best if that topic simply doesn't exist. =P

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I'm fine with whatever they decide to add so long as it's not ham fisted in some way like the Au'Ra.

"But Kyu, the Au'Ra weren't ham fisted in lore!"

And they weren't. But introducing a single NPC towards the end of the 2.5 series then having them explode into the scene for 3.0 just felt forced to me. So I'm hoping what they'll do; if they're using the Ivalice raid as means to introduce a potential new race, is have said race show up purely in the raid for 4.0/4.1 (whenever the raid opens up) then as the patches go we start to see more and more of said race outside the raid. Then as 5.0 rolls around we get _________ as a new playable race. Lore integration -> World integration -> Player integration. To me the Au'Ra felt more like: Lore integration -> Player integration -> World integration.

[DracotheDragon]

I do agree with implementing the race to show them off the au ra did feel a bit forced becuse we didn't see any of them until they were playable

As for the person who said "the beast races won't be playable yoshi p has already said this" he said that for the current beast races the ixali the amaljaa the kolbold however there can be a beast race implemented to be playable after all they are the debts they can do what they want, personally I would love the Beria to be a beast race that way peeps get them in the game but non playable