So with all of this consolidation Why do we still have 4 different Fires?

[Gumbercules]

cuz they have different effects.....no but seriously....they do different things >.>

[Nestama]

PS: if you respond, please don't state the obvious "they do different things" I'm sure we are all away are of that. My question is mostly if you were adjusting the battle system why ot adjust that aspect as well.

Well what would you rename them to? or change about them?
They all do different things and you can't just merge Fire with Fire IV (since Fire IV costs less MP than Fire and does more damage. It just doesn't give you Astral, so you still have to use Fire, which has a chance to proc Firestarter for a free Fire III cast, which will now be safe to use during Astral phase since Enochian will no longer have a timer).

[Ragnhar]

Blizzard II should have been substituted with a better skill IMO.

[Nestama]

Freeze is better than Blizzard II... hell, Freeze is going to be (potency-wise) better than Fire II in Stormblood (Fire II is being changed to 80 Potency, while Freeze remains at 100 Potency. I'm not using my bad math powers to guess what Fire II Astral III potency is). Of course, no one will use Freeze at level 50-70.

[Gumbercules]

they should go the anime/manga naming way and just flat out name em by descriptive means lol. fire = "the spell you use to keep astral up and as filler aka skafa" fire 2 "spell you use to hit alot of enemies at once, before you use flare (saebuf!)" Fire 3 "spell you open with, but also the spell you use after a proc for said spell (ObaP =*opener but also procs*)" and fire 3 "the big daddy damage spell that you cast while keeping enochian up and under astral fire. (PEWPEWPEW!)" =D This is why i am not even allowed to name FC

[AlphaSonic]

What if I don't like the other aspects of WoW? You have an opinion and so do I. Don't tell me to leave just because you don't agree with me.

I haven't told you to leave. You've just assumed that. I've told you that if you prefer that playstyle you can play it in WoW. We don't need 2 games with the same playstyle. I'm not sorry you felt attacked.

[Averax]

They're not for the same thing like all the Stones or Malefics are.

Fire 1 is basic fire attack
Fire 2 is aoe
Fire 3 is proc nuke attack and astral fire generator
Fire 4 is strong fire attack.

Now you could argue for them to have fire 1 change to fire 4 when enochian is active, and same with blizzard 1 and 4.

[Nestama]

Now you could argue for them to have fire 1 change to fire 4 when enochian is active, and same with blizzard 1 and 4.

You could, but that's if you take the MP cost out of the mix. Fire does less damage, costs more MP, grants Astral Fire and has a chance to proc Firestarter for a free Fire III cast. Fire IV does more damage, costs less MP and doesn't grant Astral Fire, nor procs Firestarter. Blizzard I'm unsure about... Blizzard costs less MP and just grants Umbral Ice, whereas Blizzard IV costs more MP and grants Umbral Hearts.

[Mholito]

If anything, they should have consolidated Fire IV and Blizzard IV into the same button.

[NovaLevossida]

I don't really have a problem with the fire spells because they all do something different. However, it is extremely lackluster to always be spamming one element over and over and over. Looks like RDM is going to fix that.