#DeleteSmn aka "Here's where you can shove your Bahamut" thread

[Vespar]

Folks, its called balancing. Not just one job, but all of them as a whole. They may also have had to reallocate where SMN's dmg is coming from in order to bring some new aspects to the job. So the dmg may not necessarily be reduced overall, it'll likely increase actually. It just wont be from one or two different skills, but from those skills all actively working as a whole.

[ErryK]

Still have Painflare, Deathflare and now Akh Morn.

[KarahaBaruha]

I would agree if Smn were a top dps job to begin with in the first place. As it is now, we aren't even considered as a viable option for the raid meta outside of 1-2 fights max

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Bio 3 replaces bio, bio 2 is still a seperate dot. So you have Miasma/miasma 3, bio/bio 3, and bio 2.

[KarahaBaruha]

Akh Morn....oh you mean a Blm's foul just renamed that we have to jump through hoops for..

[Len]

Akh Morn....oh you mean a Blm's foul just renamed that we have to jump through hoops for..

True, but we can use it twice while Demi-Bahamut's up, so there's that going for us.

[KarahaBaruha]

No, actually bio 2 is upgraded to bio 3 and miasma to miasma 3 through the corruption mastery II trait

[Bigcat9715]

To be honest I think with both Whm and Smn we should wait and see how the jobs come out. It's still too early to go grab our pitchforks and torches on something only a few people actually got their hands on.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

No, actually bio 2 is upgraded to bio 3 and miasma to miasma 3 through the corruption mastery II trait

That doesn't make much sense?

Bio goes to bio 3 with corruption mastery 1, unless there are typos. and then bio 2 goes to bio 3 with corruption mastery 2?

[Aeliott]

Typical nerf / removal / "rebalance things" knee-jerk hogwash.

As Vespar pointed out, things have to be rebalanced around the new skills and traits, in addition to their relative damage compared to BLM and RDM. People don't see it that way though, they just see it is "they took THIS away!! They lowered the damage on THIS!!!" without looking at the wider picture. And if, IF things aren't quite right numbers-wise on launch - they'll be addressed before long. By the end of Heavensward everything was relatively well-balanced given the mechanical constraints they were stuck in until 4.0. Even MNK and WHM despite the meme-o-rama that doesn't affect the overwhelming majority of players.

#DeleteKneeJerkDebbieDowners

Calm down. Have faith. I know for sure I'll get mocked for saying this, but the team do have a good record for balancing things in this game. Especially compared to other MMOs.