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  1. #11
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    its because other games are less scripted, more random, more heal-intense and/or super mp-intense.
    Remember those old MMORPGs where healer had to sit down inbetween casts to recover MP faster? Cos I do. Yeah,you werent healing all the time,but boy,you sure had to sit down to get your MP back.

    Meanwhile this game gives us POWERFUL heals with less MP costs and less incoming/very predictable damage all at once.

    To change the dps meta, youd have to make serious changes to the game's core mechanisms.
    War flashbacks man. Mana was so precious tanks had to squat to heal HP and MP because the healer didn't have the MP to waste healing in a non-combat situation. Games crawled back then, at least we don't have to drag like that anymore.
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  2. #12
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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Also please note that I'm not saying I think tanks and healers contributing to dps is bad - I think it is awesome and put out as much damage as I can on both roles, personally. The thing I find issue with are the posts saying people will kick or harass healers/tanks who don't put out enough dps or ridicule as 'bad' those players who choose to play their intended role in a way comfortable for them. They didn't sign up to dps, so any they do should be accepted as a nice bonus, but not expected and abused if not done.

    And I'm not ranting, actually, though it does piss me off when I see extremely sub-par dps complain about healer/tank dps who are actually doing more dps than they are...I mean, yes - please let me keep you alive and help the dungeon go faster while also doing more dps than someone who actually signed up for that role...
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  3. #13
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    Marcellus_Cassius's Avatar
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    Marcellus Cassius
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 70
    When I choose to play healer I do so to get away from the DPS constant button smashing rotation gameplay that they demand. I think content needs to be tuned to be harder on heals for casual content so they are not left standing around. DPS classes are built to be fun and more interactive when dealing damage, your skills and abilities complement the feel for gameplay. Playing healer DPS is boring as shit.
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  4. #14
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    We're all DDs now >.>
    When were we not?
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  5. #15
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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    Yeah,you werent healing all the time,but boy,you sure had to sit down to get your MP back.
    Haha - this brings back memories of sitting between pulls in the dunes or Qufim... *panic ghoul train*
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  6. #16
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    Faliandra's Avatar
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre View Post

    And I'm not ranting, actually, though it does piss me off when I see extremely sub-par dps complain about healer/tank dps who are actually doing more dps than they are...I mean, yes - please let me keep you alive and help the dungeon go faster while also doing more dps than someone who actually signed up for that role...


    so stop dpsing and watch them kill stuff painfully slow ...thats a legit moment to call the DPS out on their bs. dont even need a parser to see when dps are trying to get a carry.
    I've started doing that and at least sometimes, it makes people miraculously wake up. Its simple, why would I put double effort as a healer when they arent?

    You want to enjoy a real slow dungeon run? Sure, be me guest then.


    People need to start calling DPS out on their bs. It doesnt mean youre gonna get banned for parsing. Just gotta be a bit smart about how you do it.
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    Last edited by Faliandra; 05-28-2017 at 03:03 AM.

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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Yea many people treat this like a job instead of what it is a game. Some people get their fun from pushing to the limits on everything but not everyone is that way.
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  8. #18
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    Faliandra's Avatar
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Yea many people treat this like a job instead of what it is a game. Some people get their fun from pushing to the limits on everything but not everyone is that way.

    except that theres a wide gap between being "lazy", "trying/putting some effort" and "pushing limits".
    If you're too lazy to push more than 1 button, then what are you even doing in this game? You cant tell me pushing 1 or even 2-3 buttons only is fun?



    Some people like to use their brain and understand the difference, but not everyone is that way.
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  9. #19
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    Hikuras's Avatar
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    Hikaru Matsumura
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I think complaining about 2 to 5 mins more in a run is silly, if people don't have the time to play and want everyone to rush then maybe THEY shouldn't be fu*king playing and learn to manage their own time in real life better. At the same time everyone in the game needs to understand we're all playing with other people and to respect that and treat each other with freaking respect. I can't understand for the life of me how so called grown ass adults can't do that and get into stupid shout matches in a game.
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  10. #20
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    Zephyrin's Avatar
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    Zephyrin Ambervale
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus_Cassius View Post
    Playing healer DPS is boring as shit.
    I tend to say, playing healing only healer IS boring. Playing with cleric stance was more interesting than just press : regen cure cure cure cure cure ... You had to decide when is the good time to switch between cleric stance and when ou have to switch it off.

    just heal for heal is'nt interesting, like building agro just to keep agro.
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