What's going to be the strength of Dark Knights now?

[Yorumi]

viability is raider jargon which has a meaning more similar to competitive than the literal definition of viable because no matter what difficulty you are playing on you want something difficult to be as easy as possible and so it is a self created problem as all jobs were made with the ability to participate in content in mind.

So we should just hurt a segment of the player base in exchange for no benefit at all?

[Delorean]

So we should just hurt a segment of the player base in exchange for no benefit at all?

like i said, it is a self created problem. the playerbase are the only ones hurting anyone.

if the devs put a job in the game, it was made to be playable in all contents.

if you decide all tanks are shit besides paladin because of hallowed ground and you dont want any tank besides paladin in your raid group and its an idea that trickles down and sticks with the community, that would be a decision you all made collectively in spite of the fact that every job is supposed to be viable. it may persuade developers into changing a job if there is a legitimate concern where a lot of players in the community are not letting players of a certain class play with them just because they are playing that class.

some people don't know what it was like getting back to back 3k inner beasts but i do. vengeance used to not even be a damage reduction CD lol. i also remember soloing ifrit from 25% while current contents

but all of that was changed because of how players in the community were treating Warriors. they are still pretty fun to play but inner beast was changed to heal for much less and grant a 20% damage reduction for 6s on use, which arguably made them better tanks than Paladins and that was the end of that.

[Yorumi]

like i said, it is a self created problem. the playerbase are the only ones hurting anyone.

if the devs put a job in the game, it was made to be playable in all contents.

It should be no surprise at all that in a team based cooperative game people are going to favor the best options. ESPECIALLY when it comes to content at the item cap. Every tiny advantage helps. It's idiotic to say it's perfectly fine to have a job that can technically clear the content but makes it much harder and is inferior in every way to another job. People love to act like it's some sort of conspiracy that one job is favored over another, not it's because one job tends to be clearly superior. What's worse is apparently when it comes to tanks so many people seem to think the only thing that makes drk interesting is it's magic defense number and then act like every class would be the same if drk didn't have that. What a stupid reason to pick a class.

[Delorean]

It should be no surprise at all that in a team based cooperative game people are going to favor the best options.

and most players aren't even good enough to make the most of the best options

for example, most of you have never even encountered a hard dps check in progression. really doesn't matter as much as you think it does. min-maxing is pointless if you aren't going to follow through with it. it's useless in these little bits and pieces you pick and choose at your leisure rather than demanding all of it.