Are you guys finally going to DPS and help your party?

[Kitfox]

A healer healing is doing their job. A tank holding threat is doing their job. A dps that does not meet it's cutoffs is not doing their job.

Who decided on these things? You certainly don't. It's game mechanics and class design that dictates what can and should be done, not class/role name.

Game mechanics dictate that when healing is not needed and DPS can be done, the logical thing to do is DPS, because encounter design requires enemy HP bars to be empty. Just because a healer is called a healer doesn't mean DPS isn't part of their job description if they have the tools to DPS.

[NanaWiloh]

Instead of thinking of it as doing extra jobs, think of it in terms of button presses. If the dps and tanks are hitting buttons about 35 times per minute each, why is it fair that the healer gets away with hitting buttons only about 15 times in the same minute?

I am main whitemage and even with stance dancing I still make fewer button presses then tanks and dps. So things are already unfair as far as how many button presses tanks and dps make in comparison to healers. Ast and Scholar or somewhat tied for the second fewest button presses.

[Mavrias]

I am main whitemage and even with stance dancing I still make fewer button presses then tanks and dps. So things are already unfair as far as how many button presses tanks and dps make in comparison to healers. Ast and Scholar or somewhat tied for the second fewest button presses.

I'm not referring to unique button presses. But if you're significantly lower in bpm than say a blm you might have a lot of lost gcds for whatever reason. You could be only pressing 5 different buttons and have a comparable bpm count to another caster or a paladin.

[Cynfael]

It is simple. A healer healing is doing their job. A tank holding threat is doing their job. A dps that does not meet it's cutoffs is not doing their job. Pure and simple. A BLM only using ice magic is not doing it's job. A healer adding dps is extra. A tank adding dps is extra. You can argue that those that do extra are better team players. I would agree. But if a person is fulfilling their role then their job is done.

As many others have pointed out (and as we've covered many, many, many times almost since the servers opened), there is a gigantic gap between the base definition of fulfilling one's role and not being an absolute lodestone to other players.

The only reason healers ever get away with the degree of slack allowed them by the community at large is because, for much of the group content, having a healer who's phoning it in is preferable to having none (at least as long as the rest of the party is somewhat capable). Compared to this standard, the average healer who attacks rarely and heals unnecessarily looks pretty acceptable, so people are willing to settle for that.

I've said as much before, but as soon as we can win duties with HPS, the healing-only healer will have a niche. In the meantime, neither healing nor mitigation win anything except to the minimum extent necessary that allows the party to deplete the enemies' HP bars. It's not a coincidence that every combat Job in the game can (and should) deal damage; it's just an ongoing issue that some healers suffer from a special snowflake syndrome that makes them think that, just because they are the only role out of 3 that doesn't tie damage-dealing into their primary strength, they can get away with using only a portion of their toolbox.

[Seoulstar]

I'm wondering when will the mods on the forums get tired of this pointless fighting and just start locking these threads since it literally becomes a sh*tstorm. I'm actually getting tired of this bickering. People just accept that not everyone will play the game how you want. No amount of arguments and insulting will change that.

[Capriana]

To answer the OP.

No, I will not, you did not pay for my expansion.

[Tremara]

To answer the OP.

No, I will not, you did not pay for my expansion.

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Best example of ppl mindsets ... Everyone is his/her own special snowflake and if someone can't "win" a discussion with arguments, the money-card will be played because no one can trump money!

If a healer wants to contribute to help to clear a dungeon faster, then he/she will - regardless of stance-dance or not. But since some healer are to lazy, to stuck in "I'm a healer and healer doesn't do dmg" or only to oblivious to help their party, it won't happen. There will always be healer who won't contribute with dmg.

[Sebazy]

I can't help but chuckle at this discussion =(

The way I see it:

My 'job' isn't to heal or DPS.

Rather, when I sign up for a duty be it a roulette or savage, my 'job' is to clear that duty to the best of my ability, and I'll damn well use every ability I can lay my hands on to do so as effectively as I can. If I have to carry someone else in the process, so be it.

[Taika]

No, I will not, you did not pay for my expansion.

This is the worst possible attitude to have in team content on any role.

[DynamoAce]

An offensive buff for HEALERS?!?!?!

I've been waiting for this moment..... > Giving that to us healers who still very much enjoy killing things will make it a field day for us.