Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[Nestama]

I think that particular sentence was referring to specifically one person. "(to the point of dismissing quotes and evidence entirely)" makes it rather clear for me.

There are also some posts near the first page that amount to demanding anyone who doesn't show support to get out, which simply cannot happen and I cannot accept that attitude. This is a General Discussion forum and there will be differing opinions. People can show support and others can show their lack of support by disagreeing and presenting their points on why (opinions and ideas on why it would be a bad idea, or how it wouldn't be a Viera). If people only want 100% support and no disagreements, then they're better off making a "Show your Support" thread in a place they know will only show support (and that's not the Official FFXIV Forums).

[Harukochi]

I'm pretty sure your whole post is filled with a lot of wrong information.

You might wanna check it again because a lot of people are going to be able to tell what's right and wrong with what you wrote.

[Senn]

There are also some posts near the first page that amount to demanding anyone who doesn't show support to get out

If you're referring to this

"-I want another race.
*Go make your own thread. :^)"

Then yeah, they should leave and make their own thread. You can stay if you disagree with adding viera or whatever and talk about it. I haven't told anyone to "get out" other than when they are requesting another race in this thread because this isn't the place for it. So...?

[Nestama]

I'm pretty sure your whole post is filled with a lot of wrong information.

You might wanna check it again because a lot of people are going to be able to tell what's right and wrong with what you wrote.

The Ivalice argument is what I refer to and that was frustrating for both of us because even when evidence, or points were brought up on certain topics regarding the raid... they'd just be dismissed with excuses on how the raid will be about Viera, how it guarantees that Viera will be playable and so forth.

If you're referring to this

"-I want another race.
*Go make your own thread. :^)"

Then yeah, they should leave and make their own thread. You can stay if you disagree with adding viera or whatever and talk about it. I haven't told anyone to "get out" other than when they are requesting another race in this thread because this isn't the place for it. So...?

Oh no, I meant posts near the front page. Like the second and third page and possibly so forth.
Your quote regarding "I want another race - go make another thread" is okay (though I'll still post about compromises and hybrids). It's the posts that imply "this thread is only for showing support" are what I refer to.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

I think that particular sentence was referring to specifically one person. "(to the point of dismissing quotes and evidence entirely)" makes it rather clear for me.

There are also some posts near the first page that amount to demanding anyone who doesn't show support to get out, which simply cannot happen and I cannot accept that attitude. This is a General Discussion forum and there will be differing opinions. People can show support and others can show their lack of support by disagreeing and presenting their points on why (opinions and ideas on why it would be a bad idea, or how it wouldn't be a Viera). If people only want 100% support and no disagreements, then they're better off making a "Show your Support" thread in a place they know will only show support (and that's not the Official FFXIV Forums).

You say that but, this entire forum is filled with that mindset, no matter the topic. The moment you express any sorta negativity towards any aspect of the game for any reason you will run into the same thing for example. In that regard... you're fighting an uphill battle... my condolences ;P

That being said, there are plenty of anti-viera posters in this thread who would like nothing more than this thread being shut down and never appearing again. And it shows in their attitude both towards the topic as well as towards the supporters. Supporters get tired of the provocations (in general) and respond in kind. Hell, just within the last 10 pages we've had people foaming at the mouth towards each other on both sides.

Sigh, it's unfortunate really, as it's actually in the anti-viera's crowds favor to provoke such reactions as the more heated arguments become the closer the thread gets to being shut down forcefully.