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  1. #51
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Are you referring to the MogStation services like retainers and such? I see those as a sort of on-demand feature. Some may feel like 2 retainers are just not enough but others (like me) are satisfied. It all depends on perspective and what you get out of them.
    I was being a touch off. In game does not refer to anything on mog station. In game would refer to features where you can get a house, but actually can't because of real world limitations. While cash could be considered a real world limitation it is not physically part of the world. Occasionally on Balmung when a new thing is added like Gold Saucer you can't actually do it. Why because they server can't/won't let that many people in.
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    Yui Oshima
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    Mateus
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    NO NO NO. This game has limited assets. The server should be closed and not open till they can balance those assets. Other games lock servers I have never seen whining like this on those forums.
    I don't agree with what the post wants.

    Even if I don't agree with what he's asking for, this guy went through the trouble to put his concerns out in a respectful manor as best as he could. For you to just dismiss it as whining is just rude.
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  3. #53
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    Apoptomon's Avatar
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    Tomac Eagleborne
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    Delete Balmung, it's the only way to be sure
    Seriously, if building a (temporary) wall around Greg and the Balmy Army is what it takes to make Aether balanced....
    Like, I get about the community thing, but the raid and RP communities kind of brought that upon themselves by not encouraging those scenes to grow elsewhere. Rather than fracturing, I think if anything, wouldn't the restrictions help those communities grow?
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    "8000 malms to Eorzea we've come, 'cross both a Continent and an Ocean (and we did it in one-fifth of a second)"

  4. #54
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    TheAngelneer's Avatar
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    S'vhele Cottl
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    Wait, so not only the RP community in Balmung wants to put on restrictions on the server to force non-RPers out, but now it is being suggested that the subscription fee should be increased just so that they can get more people to join the club?
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  5. #55
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    Dirk Gently
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    Simple: put Balmung and Gilgamesh on their own server tree, then put Bahamut, Mandragora, Chocobo, and Shinryu on their own as well.

    That gives all 5 servers more room, since it'll just be those together on those groups.
    That's not really how it works. The reason they end up instancing areas is because there are just too many people accessing the same areas at the same times.You can see the effect when you walk into a city after being in the country at high pop times. Letting even more people have access to the area is just going to bog it down more. 1 frame a second is uncool.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I was being a touch off. In game does not refer to anything on mog station. In game would refer to features where you can get a house, but actually can't because of real world limitations. While cash could be considered a real world limitation it is not physically part of the world. Occasionally on Balmung when a new thing is added like Gold Saucer you can't actually do it. Why because they server can't/won't let that many people in.
    I see what you mean. Although for your Gold Saucer example, that's more a side effect of a new addition being popular in a high pop server. It's doesn't bar you indefinitely from the feature itself as it will eventually calm down a little over the next few days following release. Annoying true but hardly worth an increase or reduction of actual subscription pricing. You are not barred from the content, it's just at maximum capacity for what it can handle at the moment.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaken View Post
    Again, these are relatively minor disruptions to gameplay and impact a handful of hardcore PVE players. These minor disruptions pale in comparison to the very real threat of fragmenting the FFXIV community across many small servers and turning the game into a quasi-single player experience, which will cause subscribers to lose interest.

    SE could support high population servers or implement actions similar to those discussed in the OP to mitigate population problems.
    But the lock out is only temporary as well. None of this is permanent, and is likely only happening to help with the expansion launch.

    You say other people are exaggerating, but I think you're being a bit over the top yourself.

    Chill. Balmung will stay the high pop server its always been.
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  8. #58
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    I see what you mean. Although for your Gold Saucer example, that's more a side effect of a new addition being popular in a high pop server. It's doesn't bar you indefinitely from the feature itself as it will eventually calm down a little over the next few days following release. Annoying true but hardly worth an increase or reduction of actual subscription pricing. You are not barred from the content, it's just at maximum capacity for what it can handle at the moment.
    Yes and that is completely fine. But you could say we are boht not able to enjoy the same in game content for the same sub. Which is why a lock is so good the rpers be damned. The servers have an finite amount of room and resources. It is SEs job to make sure that they distribute that server space evenly so we all have the same playing experience if all other factors are equal (pc,isp,in game ability).

    I have accused SE of cash cowing transfers. Since these servers clearly have a problem. Now I don't understand they have and will really lock servers. So why did they let it get so out of control. If legacy Balmung had been locked at less then 10k. We would clearly have a second rp server and the rpers wouldn't be so bent out of shape. Or better the rping community would have left.
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  9. #59
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    OP: "Empty servers are bad for business and bad for the game!"

    Also OP: "SE, don't take any steps to populate empty servers, the big ones are all that matter."

    You're literally arguing against yourself. You're pointing out all the ways that low-pop servers drag the game down, and fighting to ensure they stay low-pop.
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  10. #60
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAngelneer View Post
    Wait, so not only the RP community in Balmung wants to put on restrictions on the server to force non-RPers out, but now it is being suggested that the subscription fee should be increased just so that they can get more people to join the club?
    No. I think the RPers on Balmung are trying to find a new server to call their home with the free transfer coming up.

    To the OP, I think it's unreasonable to increase everyone's subscription payments just to keep an over populated server up. I think that SE is doing the right thing by blocking off the high population servers, because the "lower" population servers (I see them as average population instead) will never be able to grow without that, as some have already said. With the free server transfers coming up, I think it's time for some willing people to try to branch out and find a new place to call their home. Though Mateus may be small, we're always looking for new neighbors (literally. Some houses have been open for so long that they've reached the lowest price they can go) to go on adventures with.

    and i'm a little salty that you called average population servers ghost towns. just because we're small, doesn't mean there's literally no one in the main hubs >:c
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    Last edited by floofuf; 05-18-2017 at 10:43 AM. Reason: Adding my views on the topic.

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