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  1. #9411
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    Leowilde's Avatar
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    Aegis Corona
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    So, apologies to a party I was in last week for Quarn hard mode. I had just gotten back from getting three teeth pulled at the dentists, and figured "Eh, I don't feel too bad, I'll go ahead and tank some stuff." Thing is, the anesthetic just hadn't worn off yet. Around the first boss I started to hurt, so I had them wait for a second as I took the painkillers I was prescribed. Thing is, painkillers take a while to kick in! So, I'm back to tanking and all the while my mouth is just hurting worse and worse. I start thinking I accidentally got a dry socket (something I was warned could happen if a clot came out), by the time we hit the final boss I was using the gauze less to control the bleeding (which was fine at the time) and more just to have something to bite down on and scream. I don't think I've ever left a dungeon so quickly after completion.
    Respect for staying!
    (0)

  2. #9412
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    Leveling roulette, Sohm Al. Tank was doing pretty well and doing big pulls (level 57 or so WAR). However, BLM was really awful and I don't even have a clue what they did wrong (I tried to follow their rotation but didn't notice anything special), WHM did 0 DPS. Both BLM and WHM were level 60. It's so strange seeing people at level cap performing so much worse in leveling dungeons than the players who are only learning their jobs...
    (3)

  3. #9413
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    NaesakiAshwell's Avatar
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    Naesaki Ashwell
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    I've seen a few smns like that in expert roulette. 5 mobs or more.. no shadow flare, no blizz2 just ruin 1 or ruin 3 spam until tridisaster is available then they'll bane.
    I honestly ditched Blizzard 2 after 50 as I prefer to keep surecast on hand for emergency situations, in events swiftcast is down preventing me from instantly getting someone up and I have to hardcast res.

    I'll happily manually cast my dots around in trash mobs situations if Bane, Tri-disaster and such aren't available as it doesn't really kill my MP that much and its easy enough to stay topped up anyway. Though if on the pack before I boss I will abstain tri-disaster and save it for the boss to have a bigger opener.

    I also seldom even use Ruin II unless I'm on the move, I find it such an conventional mp waste.
    (2)
    Everyone needs an internet hug every now and then.


  4. #9414
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    I just don't get it, the last.... 4 summoners in expert, no shadow flare at all even on bosses, no miasma 2, no blizz 2, essentially ignoring 1/2 of their aoe potential.
    (1)

  5. #9415
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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Character
    Violet Baudelaire
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Baelsar's Wall

    My first time there. We get to the first boss. I kill my add well enough, but the NIN wasn't really paying attention and focuses on the boss leaving the other add. We wipe. Tank gets upset with the DPS's and says we're not doing our jobs. 2nd fight goes exactly the same.

    By this point, NIN tunes back in and apologizes for getting distracted. He was reminiscing with his FC about FF11. A vote kick is initiated. Presumably by the tank. Reason: AFK. I'm in a patient mood so I vote no. Apparently so does the healer as the vote did not go through. I speak up and say that I miss FF11 too, but right now we just need to focus. We beat the boss no problem.

    After we land the killing blow, I strike up a conversation about FF11 and that's all me and the NIN are talking about during trash. The other two bosses go smoothly and in 1 shot. At the end, I didn't feel the NIN earned my comm because he still made a mistake twice at the beginning. Instead went to the healer who silently stood up for the NIN.
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  6. #9416
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Character
    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Hoo boy so I got matched with a drk...yeah that kinda drk the one that doesn't use Darkside, or any tank cool downs, who has 142 parry in their relic weapon, and all Grade V Parry in their right side. Max level drk that I got while running Qarn HM had allll of that, so me being a drk main I ask "hey, can you use Dark Side?". Nothing. I kept trying to communicate with them over and over and all I got was silence it's so aggravating trying to give pointers and you get nothing but silence.

    I just don't get how people can invest this much time into their characters and not get the basics, they were struggling with hate as they didn't have Darkside up so i'd pull aggro with Holy. Again and again I told them "can you please use Darkside" in auto translate, with a <se.X> as well just nothing but that golden silence in a dungeon.

    I tried my best because I really want to know what that drk was thinking and wanted their take on why they put parry on everything, maybe have a good conversation and give them insight on how to play a tank but if they haven't gotten it at 60 with multiple 270 shire pieces/Proto ultima pieces I don't think they will. DF surprises me everyday and today was just mind blowing that there are players like this, gonna go jump into a river or something because I can't even.
    (0)

  7. #9417
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Was in Weeping City and the entirety of Alliance B died during the Atmos phase of Ozma. I have no idea what happened... I just look up and see all of them dead. Did they all just stand still while the bird flew around and pecked them to death? I do not know. It will haunt me until the day I die.
    (1)

  8. #9418
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    The main benefit of Dissipation is the aetherflow stacks, not the healing bonus. You do get three additional Lustrates from it, so it is useful as a clutch tool if you're out of aetherflow stacks and your tank is about to die and you just need to get through the next 10 seconds. The healing bonus is there so that you don't entirely cripple your healing potential due to the loss of the fairy.

    That said, the number of times I've actually needed to use it can be counted on one finger, so I agree it could definitely use some improvement to give it a more more consistent functionality.

    P.S. Im pretty sure it does affect Lustrate and Indomitibilty, since they're potency based heals. Lustrate used to be percent based, but they nerfed that to be potency healing because SCH could use it during Cleric Stance at full potency.
    Based on what I tested, it doesn't. The description says "increase healing magic potency", so I'm guessing it only applies to spell-like abilities. Both Lustrate and Indomitability are just abilities, not spells.

    However I have used Dissipation a lot on pulls before boss fights. Why? So I have to wait 30 seconds instead of 1 minute to get 6 stacks of Aetherflow for my DPS opener (Initial 3+renovation). I can re-summon the fairy a couple of seconds before the boss fight. On rare ocassions when I need to spam heals on the tank, I have used it again... SCH struggle with DRK's Living Dead. sometimes the 3 Lustrates should suffice, but sometimes it doesn't -.- So rip fairy.

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    So, speaking of which, this morning I was on my alt and decided to heal level 60 roulette and leveling roulette. I don't know if it's a DRK thing or not, but they seem to either be allergic to darkside or they really don't know how to play the class at all, just using it for the edginess. I mainly play SCH for roulettes because I'm tired of healers that won't DPS at all, so this way I can force the runs to go faster but this morning...

    For level 60, I get Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) and they tank starts doing small pulls. So, I notice we have a BRD and a SMN, and I'm very confident about my healing skills. With that being said, I politely ask the tank if he can pull more so he starts doing so. What was the problem? Well, this tank in particular had a huuuuge issue with his MP management, so he didn't have enough MP to unleash the trash mobs. The mobs were scattered around, attacking both the DPS and me alike, I even got the "slow" debuff crippling my healing speed. I was unable to remove it because people were taking lots of damage, I kinda panicked there. The tank also didn't use any cd at all (Your daily DF tank) so we wipe.

    The tank calls me out "Were you saying? Why am I dead?". I'm very patient, rarely call people out in dungeons, I mostly judge them in silence until I complete the duty then commendate accordingly or not commendate at all. However, this guy got on my nerves and had to tell him that he had a very bad MP management, he should use cooldowns because the tanks clearly have them for a reason and he should learn how to stack trash mobs. He only replies "K", and the run continues. Small pulls from there. At the end of the run, I got 2 player comms. -.-

    For Leveling Roulette, I get... omg, I've been getting this a lot lately... I got Dusk Vigil. I'm on SCH, I summon Selene and I get a DRK again. The DPS were a MNK and a MCH. This DRK... Yes, she was allergic to darkside, crippling their mitigation capabilities. I ask why she wasn't using it, but I get no response at all. So, this tank in particular starts doing big pulls. The ONLY cd she used was Shadowskin and Darkdance, NOTHING ELSE, and they also were poorly used. Darkdance on the ice sprites, for example. Good luck mitigating their magic damage with your parry. The first wipe was in the room after the mammoth boss. The tank decided to mass pull everything until she reached the locked door. Things were NOT dying! (Actually, they were but extremely slowly), I run out of MP, because she wasn't using cds and not getting positioned correctly (Showing the mobs her back, disabling their passive parry completely). She was taking soooo much damage. Welp, we died.

    Again, I call the tank out about doing big pulls, they are not worth it, we don't have the DPS for it as it was obviously proven. The tank ignores me and she keeps pulling more and more. So I summon Eos to get some healing carry and DPS whenever I was able to because man, this tank was taking THE damage. Granted, everything hits really hard in this dungeon, but the tank made it way harder with their poor performance. No commendations at the end.
    (1)
    Last edited by Lilseph; 05-13-2017 at 10:04 AM.

  9. #9419
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    NefarioCall's Avatar
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    Nefario Call
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 80
    Just did a roulette into Baelsar's Wall.

    I had a feeling it was going to be a grind when we just scraped by through the first pack of trash mobs.
    Then at the first boss, we wiped several times because we couldn't kill the adds fast enough.
    Mainly i think it was just a mix of minimum iLvL players and first timers to the place made it tough.

    But we kept fighting through.
    And that's where this addition to this topic shines a bit brighter,
    Because no one even once complained. Not then and not after we wiped a few more times on the second boss.
    Not even when we wiped a few times on the last boss and the tank had to leave.

    Major thanks to the rep tank (Mentor) that came in from Novice Network.
    Of course with 10 minutes left i chose that time to get sticky jumbly fingers with Cleric stance and wipe the party. xD
    But we had enough time left for one more go and finally nailed it with seconds to spare.
    Felt good.

    Come to think of it, i've been rolling into groups that just scraped by all day. xD
    And not once was anyone ever toxic about it. The sprouts i rolled into on Cutter's Cry earlier were loving it.

    So laugh? Cry? Smile? I dunno, you decide.
    But none of it was even once toxic.
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  10. #9420
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NefarioCall View Post
    90mins in Baelsar's Wall.
    I think that alone qualifies for a good cry.
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