Suggestion as to how to get people to become healers.

[Ama_Hamada]

People jump on Cleric Stance because that's how party members die- when the healer wants to DPS more than they want to heal, and shirks their actualduty.

Doing improper tank stance dancing is how people die and wipe, cleric stance does not do it. It is not cleric stance fault if people are trying cast cures while under it for 5 minutes till someone dies is not the fault of cleric stance. It is misplacing blame, even look at the video of doing a12s with no healers, lul, it is amazing what tanks can do when they know what they are doing. The only job that notices if tanks are really doing a proper job is an aware healer, holding hate is not all you do as a tank, you should be migrating damage and a for a lot of people, it is a difficult concept, provoking full time healers from thinking it is their fault.

Why are people like ama using tanks as a comparison to healers clerics stance (probably cause I said I didn't care about the conversation anymore unless warrior was brought up, your a piece of work ama). Do you even realize how often a tank has to stance dance in a fight in comparison? There are fights where the Off tank is literally only useful for 1 mechanic (the rest is downtime) and the whole rest of the fight they are a DPS. The main tank can spend literally almost the whole fight in defiance/shield oath/grit while the offtank can spend almost the whole fight in deliverance/swordoath/nongrit. A very adept healer will have to switch numerous amounts of times, its not even about being hard at that point, its more about an annoyance, especially just to recast DoTs every time they go down if you want to optimize dmg. This comparison doesn't work, so don't even try it. A warriors entire toolkit is self heals and DPS which means they should be DPSing with no other alternative like a healer has which its main role is to heal. They could add more off tank mechanics but thats another debate for another thread.

Also if you lower tank DPS (which is fine with me) you may as well just lower healer dps instead since they don't have nearly as much downtime which defeats your own damn argument. Are you the one trolling now?

Because I am sick of seeing people attacking cleric stance when real issue is tanks! Plus tank stance switching is more complex then a cleric toggle, so it is just me being curious why people seem to put cleric in such a bad light and think dropping it will add more healers, and nothing is said on tank stances.