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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    u wot m8? Those are the best ones.
    I saw Dissidia and got a headache from just watching it. Granted I was WAY out of the franchise by then so my interest was way low already, but when I want a spin off about fighting...well I want a fighting game and not a mash of pretty lights! In terms of fighter spin-off, I would rather pick up persona 4 arena (and no I don't own it: I'm terrible at fighting games). If anything I could add Dragon Quest heroes - does it count as a fighting game? - but as a "Warrior" game is pretty mediocre.
    For world of final fantasy...I dunno, it just feels so uninspired and boring to look at that I just preferred to get a copy of Berseria instead. At least Tales games have fun combat and Berseria had also a pretty amazing plot! And no I have no idea when that game was released: all I'm doing is showing my thought process when it gets to rpgs.

    My sister owns Theathrythmn and she said it sucks...and suffice to say I trust her more than anyone else in the world. And final fantasy explorer....I prefer God Eater.

    And sure I will take your word about Nier: enjoy the game. I just don't trust its quality. Sorry!
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 04-23-2017 at 06:53 AM.

  2. #162
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    Yasuhiro's Avatar
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    If you said you had never played them from the start I wouldn't have bothered replying. I can't take anyone's opinion seriously when they're just going off impressions rather than actually playing them.
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    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Personally I think it's a calculated decision
    That's likely part of the reasoning behind the calculated decision, but it's also probably to avoid situations where players get hyped about a new feature they heard about 6 months out and said feature ends up getting significantly changed or removed by the time the expansion launches. While it can be really cool to know a lot of details about an upcoming feature or change...you can also end up in a situation where it goes from "Oh that looks awesome" to "Oh...that's okay I guess" to "Where did it go?" Garrisons in the WoD expansion in WoW are a perfect example - what started as a sort of customizable version of housing that was hyped to be something you could have in a chosen zone and would be a fun side attraction became a much more on rails experience with much less customization.

    Avoiding those kinds of swings in player reaction is definitely a calculated decision.
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Sadly, it's typical PR practice.
    The revamp thing isn't even an example of that - when they announced the revamp they gave examples of the kinds of changes they were looking at making - removing useless skills by merging them or just getting rid of them, improving rarely used skills, adding UI elements. They set the expectation for the kind of revamp they would be doing at the Las Vegas Fan Fest.

    Some players took that one word, revamp, and ran with it without considering the additional context, which is how we ended up with some people thinking it might have been a change to action combat (saw that one frequently on another forum) or some other serious of drastic changes that led to people calling it an overhaul.

    The players played themselves in this case.
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    Last edited by Berethos; 04-23-2017 at 01:04 PM.

  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    snip
    Or they could have used a better word for it like "changes" to battle system. Revamp is a very strong word to use. Which basically translates to complete change. You can't put the blame solely on players. This is why you need to be careful when using the word revamp because it can be taken as more.
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    Last edited by Remus; 04-24-2017 at 06:42 PM.

  6. #166
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    I hope the rest of the budget went to RDM. Simply because it got tossed under the bus after the first fan fest. I mean, they couldn't even put it in the trailer?! Hmmph...
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Or they could have used a better word for it like "changes" to battle system. Revamp is a very strong word to use. Which basically translates to complete change. You can't put the blame solely on players. This is why you need to be careful when using the word revamp because it can be taken as more.
    I agree. If you do not plan to make big changes you just write something less strong. They might have given some examples on the change but at the same time they where alway kinda secretive about the changes too which would normally mean that there is more to it. (Why would you answer question to this later if its just simple changes and nothing big?) Yet at least right now it seems that there wont be big changes. This just feels off.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    I hope the rest of the budget went to RDM. Simply because it got tossed under the bus after the first fan fest. I mean, they couldn't even put it in the trailer?! Hmmph...
    Did any of the new classes feature in the HW trailer. The trailer to me is an insight into the continuation of the story. Maybe RDM doesnt fit into any of the Expansion lore and comes from an undiscovered area.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 04-25-2017 at 02:04 AM.

  9. #169
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    I understand a lot of the money is going to moving to a new and upgraded data center somewhere more westward than Montreal. As someone living in California, this is great and spend all the money you want for this, WOOO!
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    Sure, alright, but it doesn't change that 1.0 failed for "reasons": those are just my guesses as of why it failed, trying to cater from the success of FFXI (which is kind of the same for FF7, if you think about it) but I'm not surprised if none of them are right. But one thing is right for certain: 1.0 failed, hard.
    Speakers Network is doing an excellent series called The Fall and Rise of FFXIV. It details some of the reasons why 1.0 failed. It's definitely worth a watch.
    Ep 1: https://youtu.be/CJ9CmxaQ3q8
    Ep 2: https://youtu.be/hteHjgVwK6k
    Ep 3: https://youtu.be/-5SQdyGAyC8
    Ep 4: https://youtu.be/0nVJlaKf5io
    Ep 5: https://youtu.be/OU01kQjzIjk
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