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  1. #8881
    Player
    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    nice post snip <3
    You're very welcome! ^^ The rotation for the Super Special Regens is basically this:
    Lightspeed > Synastry > Aspected Helios > Aspected Benefic > Collective Unconscious > Bole (if you were lucky enough to get one) > Time Dilation > Celestial Opposition

    That offers some really nice regen ticks. Even better if the tank pops Convalescence before you get started on them. I was testing it out on a friend one day, and he went WAR, using Defiance, Convalescence, and Thrill of Battle before I got started. My regen ticks were averaging 8,000. It was glorious. XD

    I much prefer Diurnal in 4-man content, just for the reason with having regens ticking on the tank (or DPS if they like AOE puddles), it allows me to spend more time in Cleric DPSing. Fo 8-man and 24-man content, I prefer to be in Nocturnal. If I had a fairy to heal for me in Noctural, I would definitely go with Noct all the way though. ;p

    And it's okay. XD I only use Lightspeed if there was some sort of huge oops, and there needs to be a lot of healing to try and make the fight recoverable. I know some ASTs will use it for Gravity spam (have seen some in content, and read comments from other ASTs), but I would recommend against that, because it also lowers your DPS output by 25%.



    DF story: Got out of a Sohm Al HM where the adds for the final boss spawned 4 times. o.o We wiped the first go around because the BLM didn't LB the second set of adds. I'm trying to keep the tank up (with my Super Special Regens), but some of the scorpions when they spawned decided they wanted to eat a healer for breakfast. So my casts are getting interrupted, tank goes down. I manage to Swiftcast+Raise him, and Essential Dignity myself, but it wasn't enough because the boss killed the DRG and then went straight for me. ;_; We got it the second time though. I told them if we could get the LB built back up to use it on the second pack. The tank and DRG apparently had never heard nor seen that done ever. o.o We didn't get the LB though, so we had to kill them the old fashioned way while I regened the tank.

    Idk... DPS was really slow. But I didn't have my "crystal ball" with me, so I don't know just how slow. I don't think the BLM was puling their weight though. Because I at least saw the DRG using their buffs, and what looked like a decent rotation (don't know too much about 50-60 DRG though). I had more health than both the DRG and BLM on my AST so. XD But at least we got it done. ^^
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-15-2017 at 05:00 AM.
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  2. #8882
    Player
    Dzian's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Scarlett Dzian
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 76
    Dun scaith..

    Queued dun scaith on blm. wanted the boots for glamour.. duty started and hate was bouncing everywhere on the first boss I was "tanking" for about 2 minutes before our parties tank noticed quite a few lines in the party chat about the fact the blm had hate and he should probably voke it... people dying quite frequently in allances a and c, turns out the healers weren't esunaing doom. first attempt ended as a wipe..

    second attempt alliance chat was can a tank actually tank. so the tank in our party said he would because the other 2 clearly weren't... so he pulls and after the void death draw ins I drop ley lines and set up my buffs and my burst of fire 4s rips hate off the tank again... and there watching it and nope tank isn't getting it back... so I pop a call in chat and finally vokes it back.. people still dying in a and c to doom. but manage to clear it with6 of the 8 sqares dropped...

    second boss our parties tank runs in grabs it and still can't keep hate and ends up dying to the atamos orb aoes. and lots of people dying soon after because none of the other tanks even bothered trying so wiped again... tank in C dropped party and got a new one. and actually smashed the second boss quite smoothly with him main tanking... got my boots as well so at least something good came from the run...

    third boss cs tank runs in main tanks no one grabs the adds and thus tethered and everyone gets smashed into the floor. every one wipes.... tank and 1 healer in our party bail... at this point said to my friend I was gonna change to tank as I got my boots it didn't really matter.

    so I rejoin the group and we pull again. and I notice cs tank is taking a beating and his healers are struggling to keep up so i'm tossing as many clemancys as I can on him to try and keep him standing but ultimately goes down. forcing me to voke. unfortuanately that then meant that no one was going to grab the adds and yeah we wiped again....

    at this point both other tanks bailed along with about 7 or 8 other alliance members... vote abandon goes out but is rejected but the group fills up again pretty quick anyway. I said to my friend I should have bailed while the party wasn't full to skip the penalty.. anyway another paladin said they'd main so I said great I'll getthe add. downed the boss real quick with half the alliance replaced.

    moved to the last boss other paladin mained it said i'd get the middle thingy all went pretty well the paladin died at one point but I voked it and took over quite smoothly and cleared the run...... rough as hell but got my boots at least.
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  3. #8883
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Saito Hikari
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    End up top DPS in Dun Scaith while doing all the usual duties of a Bard, get no commendations.

    Die once or twice per fight in another run, get 5 commendations.

    I don't even...
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  4. #8884
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    Wyntir's Avatar
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    New York
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    Character
    Wyntir Nox
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 88
    So I finally ran into one of "those" mentors I keep hearing about.

    Leveling roulette, got tam-tara 8min in prog. Not sure if the tank was one of the original group or not, but I ran down to the first boss. I'm dotin all the mobs, healing, throwin out stones etc. After the boss..

    him: So instead of damaging when you're not healing you just... stand there?
    me: i was?
    him: heh, yea ok

    Which of course pissed me off.. If you wanna try to call someone out on something, at least make sure they're doing/not doing it? So we get to the next boss, its almost dead and he's at like 20% health... so I just keep DPSing the boss.. :^)

    him: Need a second to remember how to heal?
    me: nope, need a sec to take your head out of your ass? its not a hat.

    He keeps pulling, being as abusive as possible, calling me a bad healer, etc. etc... Soon as the loot finished rolling, I'll admit I let the party wipe. Why? So I could kick him. I don't think I've ever seen one go through that fast.. lol. BYE FELICIA! Finished off with a pleasant enough WAR. I felt bad for the newbie though, we had a bonus in the party. I hope that wasn't his first taste of the community, since this is actually one of the better I've seen in most MMOs.
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    Last edited by Wyntir; 04-15-2017 at 07:52 AM.

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  5. #8885
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    ViolaCrossfire's Avatar
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    Viola Crossfire
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyntir View Post
    So I finally ran into one of "those" mentors I keep hearing about.
    MFW a mentor doesn't realise healer DOT is an insta cast ability so looking at cast bars is useless. You're here to teach? Start by teaching yourself some manners.
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  6. #8886
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    Rhyku's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Estinien Wyrmblood
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Rolled up in Sohm Al Hard for DREx, realizes with horror that nin's HP is only........ 6k? Turned out to be a case of not repairing broken gear before queueing! As a result, he would die to every single room wide aoe, no matter how miniscle. Halfway through that, I think another piece of gear must have broken because his HP halved to a lovely 3k. Tank asks if he had DoH to repair his gears, and nada because he had just started playing the game. He was so apologetic. Major props to the healer who was ressing him non-stop. I felt mean, because it was so hilarious, but I also really felt sorry for him. Kinda really makes you wonder how many pieces of gear were broken. One of those times where I wished we could repair other player's gear in dungeons.

    Moral of the story: always check your gear's durability before entering a dungeon.
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    Last edited by Rhyku; 04-16-2017 at 08:10 AM.
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  7. #8887
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    Rymm's Avatar
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I like big pulls when I tank. I like big pulls when I heal. But for the love of god, please make sure you have some sort of aoe dps in your group before you pull a dozen mobs at a time. Got leveling Sohm Al the other day on my SCH. We had 2 MNKs for dps and the PLD tank still pulled the absolute maximum number of mobs that gating allowed every. single. time. I dps'ed as much as I could (he was fairly squishy too so I had to drop out of cleric stance more often than I like) but I couldn't help thinking it's a bit silly to pull so big when your healer has the best aoe dmg in the group. :/
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  8. #8888
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I like big pulls when I tank. I like big pulls when I heal. But for the love of god, please make sure you have some sort of aoe dps in your group before you pull a dozen mobs at a time. Got leveling Sohm Al the other day on my SCH. We had 2 MNKs for dps and the PLD tank still pulled the absolute maximum number of mobs that gating allowed every. single. time. I dps'ed as much as I could (he was fairly squishy too so I had to drop out of cleric stance more often than I like) but I couldn't help thinking it's a bit silly to pull so big when your healer has the best aoe dmg in the group. :/
    Last I checked, MNK still has Rockbreaker at that level. If they couldn't outdamage the healer they just suck.
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  9. #8889
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    Alynn's Avatar
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    Alynn Kertia
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 99
    I just queued up and got Baelsar's Wall. We get a WAR... even in defiance he only had 35k health and proceeded to pull two groups all together. I try to heal him (aspected helios + aspected benefic + synastry + ED + trying to cast benefic II). We wipe (duh). No Holmgang, didn't take aggro off me. I mean I get it if you wanna go fast but cast times are a thing even with lightspeed... By far the rudest tank I've ever encountered.

    Edit: Queued again and got a cute little lala paladin and a BRD + BLM. PLD popped her CDs, BLM did her thing, BRD sang for us like crazy and I wish I could've gave her more commends Fiora Sato if you ever read this you're one of a kind <3
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    Last edited by Alynn; 04-16-2017 at 11:05 PM. Reason: Synastry not synergy ._.

  10. #8890
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    Raikki's Avatar
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    Raikki Zero
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    We had 2 MNKs for dps and the PLD tank still pulled the absolute maximum number of mobs that gating allowed every. single. time. I dps'ed as much as I could
    Don't perpetuate the myth that certain classes can't AOE. MNK has ample AOE to do max size pulls. An alarming number of melee DPS players do not use their AOEs though, which is probably the problem you had.
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