As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Feyona]

And I'll explain why:

Tanks and Healers have a special relationship separate from DPS, wherin they can directly influence the other, and this means that in raiding, you can pre-plan and suggest when a healer should be doing DPS

Ultimately, raiding isn't a "do what I want" piece of content, and groups really need to listen to each other and sometimes compromise on what they are used to in order to overcome content.

Yes dont think anyone is suggesting that you do what you want and people do need to compromise, pf duties though may be another type of scenario where expectation is set a bit too high for all, and rarely is communication good. So negotiation between healers is lacking. Although you can assess the situation up to a point, it is a little more difficult and therefore carries more risk to do. The expectation at the moment, I have been told is not only healers expected to dps, but dps alot, on Zurvan ex. It may be a possibility that some, not all, groups are kind of expecting a little too much out of healers these days and sounds like its always up to the healer to make sure they carry the group to skip soar just wondering when this trend is going.Not that I wasnt predicting this problem in earlier posts on other threads. It just seems just a little too much as recentl had a tank in dps stance as well at the same time as expecting healers dps while spamming tank with heals. Tank died no soar skip and dps leave cos we 'arnt good enough'

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Yes dont think anyone is suggesting that you do what you want and people do need to compromise, pf duties though may be another type of scenario where expectation is set a bit too high for all, and rarely is communication good. So negotiation between healers is lacking. Although you can assess the situation up to a point, it is a little more difficult and therefore carries more risk to do. The expectation at the moment, I have been told is not only healers expected to dps, but dps alot, on Zurvan ex.

Right, but context is important. Why are you expected to DPS a lot? If the tank can handle it with minimal healing or your co-healer has it under control, then it's an understandable situation. They don't need additional healing from the Scholar. On the other hand, if the tank overestimates their abilities, you may need to take initiative and drop cleric early to accommodate. If that pisses them off, boop them on the head and tell them to mitigate better. I will say, PF groups can have horrendous communication and some people will jump down your throat instead of taking two minutes to figure out what's wrong. Better not to give them much thought.

[Feyona]

Right, but context is important. Why are you expected to DPS a lot? If the tank can handle it with minimal healing or your co-healer has it under control, then it's an understandable situation. On the other hand, if the tank overestimates their abilities, you may need to take initiative and drop cleric early to accommodate. If that pisses them off, boop them on the head and tell them to mitigate better. I will say, PF groups can have horrendous communication and some people will jump down your throat instead of taking two minutes to figure out what's wrong.

Your right communication is bad, and so are most, not just a few of the groups, for farms on Zurvan. Most fail actually. Its the worst primal farm to go on, in my experience. Not just for people failng but for people leaving for one wipe. So you could say they had some higher expectation. I have heard of healers being booted for not dpsing enough though as well.

[Taika]

The expectation at the moment, I have been told is not only healers expected to dps, but dps alot, on Zurvan ex. It may be a possibility that some, not all, groups are kind of expecting a little too much out of healers these days and sounds like its always up to the healer to make sure they carry the group to skip soar just wondering when this trend is going.

The damage to skip Soar is done in the first phase of the fight, during which healers literally don't need to heal anyone at all. Healers aren't asked to DPS to "carry their group" there, they're asked to DPS to do something useful. As Bourne Endeavor said above, it's about context.

[Feyona]

The damage to skip Soar is done in the first phase of the fight, during which healers literally don't need to heal anyone at all. Healers aren't asked to DPS to "carry their group" there, they're asked to DPS to do something useful. As Bourne Endeavor said above, it's about context.

Then it kind of proves whst Im trying to say as both healers dps full on at first . What was lacking was the dps's dps but healers sort of get the blame as pressured to dps and failng healing as a result. It may have put pressure on tank to dps as well to make up for the deficiency. I thing your possibly wrong that dps dont go in groups to get a carry in some cases. These days everyone seems to be watching if a healer is dpsing or not. Such is the community's attitude towards it. Some dps can get away with sneaking into a farm on an alt. Healers cant do this really as people would die if they arnt healed. Saying that though if group knows what is wrong will boot such a dps. Then again healers job is much easier in groups that 'know'. Unfortunateky most of the community probably doesnt, but so much emphasis is put on healer dps.