Aren't trials a waste of resources?

[Ririta]

I've done the Warring Triad for a total of 2 times each. One each character.

Since SE removed all rewards from hard mode primals, I've never queued for them directly.

Meanwhile, Trial Roulette almost always puts me at an ARR trial (understandable, being part of the early MSQ). The rare HW trial is one of the MSQ such as Thordan. And, to be quite honest, if I had the option I'd only do the ARR trials.

At first I thought that fighting Nidhogg, Fenrir, Diabolos and Siren as a "mere" dungeon bosses was bad, but now I see the value on it. Roulettes often put me on those dungeons, and facing them at the end of a dungeon is a more immersive experience.

Can't we just get rid of trials and place future primals in dungeons? It somewhat baffles me that the likes of Zurvan have two arenas and two forms, meanwhile content that is repeated over and over for gear such as Alexander was barebones; and, according to mrhappy's interview, they can't add more turns...

Controversial, I know.

[St0rmchild]

Er no.

Hard Mode primals basically introduce the base mechanics for the Ex version - see it as the 'training wheels' where you can get familiar with the theme of the fight, the basics ... plus it's something to hang another side story onto

[matteoxyz]

I feel the exact opposite. Trials are the best part of this game, for me. The corridors of trash in dungeons are beyond tedious. I do my dungeon runs for tomes and xp only. If I just want to have fun I'll just do trials/Alex.

[Faliandra]

I like trials.

I'd even love for them to make a ARR-only and a HW-only trial roulette, BECAUSE in 95% of the time, we only ever get ARR primals, but I'd like to do more HW ones too.

[Kazrah]

I think it's a tradeoff since instead of trash for trials, we get bosses with a greater number of more elaborate mechanics compared to a typical dungeon end boss.

Another solution could be where putting hard/normal-mode primals at the end of a dungeon and then extreme primal fights would just have the primal without the trash since I'm pretty sure players who want to run extremes aren't exactly looking for that "immersive" experience, but rather for that kill and their weapon(s) and mount.

Oh yeah, loot for those hard/normal-mode primals; that needs to be a thing again. Once we get that first clear, there's no real reason to run them again, therefore no real reason to stick around if it pops up in trial roulette since there's no real reward afterward. Maybe have them drop accessories since those usually can't be bought from NPC vendors in the leveling process.

[Magic-Mal]

I've done the Warring Triad for a total of 2 times each. One each character.

But uh... what happened to.. you know.. all the other people on the planet who did/do the Trials more than once or twice?

[Baci]

But uh... what happened to.. you know.. all the other people on the planet who did/do the Trials more than once or twice?

Obviously they dont count.

[Ririta]

But uh... what happened to.. you know.. all the other people on the planet who did/do the Trials more than once or twice?

That's just my experience.

I wish there was a way to track how many times you beat each content. I seem to get a lot of King Mog and Leviathan in my trial roulettes. Too bad that they don't sync trials... I love Leviathan's theme but the fight always ends before the climax

[matteoxyz]

I feel the exact opposite. Trials are the best part of this game, for me. The corridors of trash in dungeons are beyond tedious. I do my dungeon runs for tomes and xp only. If I just want to have fun I'll just do trials/Alex.

[RLofOBFL]

They should make HMs a little harder & have them drop weak but viable weapons. Like 235 For Sophia, 245 for Zurvan.