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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    And that's when I mention a third clan of either Elezen with the exact type of physique as Viera (mature, elegant, etc), or Miqo'te (longer ears, no tail, same physique as Viera) as a compromise, also having their own emotes and animations, like Midlanders and Highlanders. Viera lore from Tactics Advance and XII has no place in XIV (make them actually unique/different, rather than just copy and paste from a previous title).

    If Viera are to be introduced as NPC only races (and never playable), that's also a decent compromise... but again, not with the same lore from previous titles. Give them their own XIV lore.
    That is all in direct in direct contrast to what is being asked for in this thread. The compromise you give dose nothing to satisfy the concession I and many other are asking for. So much is already borrowed from other FF titles but this must be completely unique? What dose the introduction of Viera do to you specifically that should keep it from a player base that has wanted them since 1.0 (for those of us coming form Vana'diel even longer).

    Yoshi wishes the mention of Viera had been left off the race survey, it wasn't. He did not want the Au Ra concept art assets shown, they were. Time and again this request is made, time and again detractors and disparagers rally against it as if though their inclusion would be detrimental to them in some form or another, why?

    In a game where we get outfits from past protagonists, have Fates bring characters from titles, have jobs, items, areas, names, music all referencing the series as a whole, the very thing that carried Final Fantasy XIV through 1.0 should be set aside completely for a unique race?

    Though the difference is subtle, that does not mean it's unwanted or undesirable. People groan and complain that there are to many of these threads, should that not be an inclination as to what many in the community want? Even threads made specifically to counter those championing Viera are unable to keep up, why is that? Many in the player base want this option, have been patiently waiting for this. The title isn't Viera or riot it's :Viera as the next new race- Show your support: so of course 66 pages later supporters have defend their view to people who thinly cover their arguments against implementation as "discussion".

    I do not want the compromises you have suggested. I want the dev team to concede and give us what was voted for and therefore expected of them as a promise made in 1.0. however it was meant, whatever the intent a clear winner was chosen. If the dev. team didn't mean to sway the vote in such a way using Viera as an example then their payed professional staff should have cleared it up before the results were tallied.

    That damn race poll from 1.0
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    Last edited by Alacran; 04-08-2017 at 07:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Yoshi wishes the mention of Viera had been left off the race survey, it wasn't. He did not want the Au Ra concept art assets shown, they were. Time and again this request is made, time and again detractors and disparagers rally against it as if though their inclusion would be detrimental to them in some form or another, why?
    That's right, in retrospect Yoshi wishes he had never used Viera as the example used to give people an idea of what was meant for that voting option, because people who can't read and grasp the ex meant example, it was not; nor ever, meant as what we were going to receive. He also wished the Au'Ra concept was never shown because he knew it would only perpetuate the situation and he was right. As to why, because people have differing opinions, because you got you're Mammalian beast-man race in the Au'Ra (even though it's reptilian), because there's things to fix with the current races. There's a whole slew of reasons just as equally fair and important to other people as your opinion is to you.

    Though the difference is subtle, that does not mean it's unwanted or undesirable. People groan and complain that there are to many of these threads, should that not be an inclination as to what many in the community want? Even threads made specifically to counter those championing Viera are unable to keep up, why is that? Many in the player base want this option, have been patiently waiting for this. The title isn't Viera or riot it's :Viera as the next new race- Show your support: so of course 66 pages later supporters have defend their view to people who thinly cover their arguments against implementation as "discussion".
    If my memory serves me well; and it typically does, there was a sister thread made in opposition to this very thread "Anything but Viera" and it quickly out grew this thread and also had more likes at the time. So using this thread as some form of confirmation of what should be next is not a form that should be used to choose what should be next.

    I do not want the compromises you have suggested. I want the dev team to concede and give us what was voted for and therefore expected of them as a promise made in 1.0. however it was meant, whatever the intent a clear winner was chosen. If the dev. team didn't mean to sway the vote in such a way using Viera as an example then their payed professional staff should have cleared it up before the results were tallied.

    That damn race poll from 1.0
    So in short you just want to be child and throw fits because you're not getting your way? Not a good way to go about convincing anyone of anything.

    Viera was NEVER a promise, ever. It was an example used to give people an idea of what the intent was. Arguably we got what was voted for except instead of mammalian we got reptilian. Which made more sense in lore due to the whole Dragon Song war, though I feel not enough was done with it, but that's a whole other matter.

    People really need to stop perpetuating this "Viera promise" shtick. If you want Viera that's fine, but stop spreading this falsehood of unfulfilled promise/s.
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    Last edited by Kyuuen; 04-08-2017 at 11:46 PM. Reason: grammar and general derpyness and limit (come on SE)

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