Are high lvl players normally rude?

[CryBloodwing]

I have been in a few dungeons for my first time, where I nicely asked the tank, who was a high level character, if we could do the full dungeon. He ignored me, then started running through the dungeon. I asked if we could go back to a door we missed, and he said I was being rude by making them do boring things. The DPS also joined and started saying the same stuff. About what percent of people are like this?

[Sylvaneste]

There is an old saying. The larger a group is, the more chances you will encounter non friendly people. It happens. Some just are scrambling to get their daily done before they leave for work, or school. Others have 1,000 other reasons. All you can do is be polite in asking. If you want to see a whole dungeon and debate the hieroglyphs on the walls, then I suggest making your own party. Should not be too diffuclt to ask in a major city like limsa or Idyl for people.

[seekified]

Impossible to give a number. You'll run into idiots every now and then, which is unavoidable on the Internet. There's definitely far less tolerance in level 50 and level 60 content since a lot of players have been speedrunning/farming those for years and they just want to get on with their day.

[Naria]

If I see New Player Bonus in a leveling dungeon as tank, I will ask if the new player wants a full clear for the map but I've only ever had one person take me up on it. The standard in leveling dungeons isn't to full clear, so the party wouldn't have gone in expecting to full clear. It is rude to completely ignore you, harass you, or if they are pressed for time and can't do a full clear to at least not explain the situation. If you want to guarantee a full clear (or any non-community-standard run such as watching CSes in Castrum Meridianum or The Praetorium) I would also recommend making a Party Finder group. Otherwise for leveling dungeons you can go back and solo all the ones pre-50 after you are level 60 by using the "unsynced party" option in the Duty Finder. If you are on your servers Novice Network, you might also ask if there is a tank or full party there that is willing to help you with a full clear.

[AmeliaVerves]

[...] he said I was being rude by making them do boring things. The DPS also joined and started saying the same stuff. [...]

I would not at all call this rude, maybe it is a bit unreasonable in your eyes, but not rude! If 3 out of 4 people are not interested in exploring a whole dungeon then why do you call it rude if they keep going?
If I were in that situation and 1 person would keep going like "Can we go back?", "I want to explore everything.", "Don't rush, I want to see all." then it might be irritating for them, when it is already clear, they are not interested in doing so? :/
People are usually in there, because of daily tomestone grind and therefor want to get it done fast. I think you will find out, once you hit level cap.

Don't get me wrong: I like to kill literally every mob in a dungeon as well when I am leveling, but if the majority of a party isn't interested, I have to adapt and get in that dungeon one more time and hope to find a party willing to play the way I want to. Or, like suggested before, open a PF saying "dungeon XYZ exploration run, be patient and bring time to see everything".

[Mirch]

ahaha yes.

[Just-Communication]

While I wouldn't generalize all high level players, you will definitely run into a good portion of the population who are not receptive to going out of their way to accommodate new players, especially in duty finder. To them, you're just another stranger who they will never talk to after the instance is over; they are under no obligation to exert the necessary effort to contribute to your positive gaming environment. You are not in their Free Company, Linkshell or friend list, so why should they bother when there is no incentive? You know what, the game even gives them valid excuses, such as how you could have formed a fixed party for a full clear or revisit lower level content by yourself in a future unsynced run. Similar situations exist when it comes to watching cutscenes for full party duty finder content - often the party will just move on without you.

That is the current reality.

They may try to justify their behaviour by saying they don't have the time or become defensive and accuse you in turn for being unreasonable. It boils down to different needs and wants, practicality, plus the unwillingness to admit they are impatient. I am neither condoning nor defending their actions but am simply laying it out like it is.

Let's face it: if you just started out and have not joined a Free Company or had an opportunity to make some friends at the same level, you may have some trouble getting a fixed party together for the purposes of carrying out a full clear of a dungeon using the party finder. In essence you would be relying on the kindness of strangers, because a large segment of the gaming community believes maximizing one's time in a MMO game is the expected and acceptable norm; it becomes a race for achievements, vanity and social acceptance vice a form of casual entertainment to be enjoyed at your own leisure. Everything else that falls outside of what is perceived to be the best use of time becomes a chore, a burden or an annoyance.

If you have no luck with party finder, your best bet is to find a free company with members who share your play style and run content with them whenever possible.

Good luck. I hope you do not become the very thing you dislike about high level players in the future.

[AmeliaVerves]

I have a general Question just coming up in my mind: Is it really rude if I simply don't want to help a person?

Just to make it clear: I, personally, am a helpful person. Grabbed mentor status to be able to enter Mentor-Roulette (not wearing crown tho, because of bad experiences). Posting here on forums (mostly german) mostly trying to give helpful advices (besides fooling around in off-topic xD). I don't mind moving out of my way to help others (run dungeons or trials or raids I don't need/farm birds I already have/join practice or kill partys even though I have the kill already).
So this is just a general thing I am interested in.

My opinion to my own question: I don't think it is rude. Of course it's not nice either, but if someone asks me to help and I, for whatever reason, don't want to, it should not be considered rude.
Not talking about people insulting others or calling bad names or whatever of course! That is what I consider rude! But when someone is asked to help and he just says "No, I don't want to/ can't.", how can that be rude?

[Maero]

Well in one viewpoint these players have most likely done said dungeon a million times, but i think if one is qued for and do say a low level dungeon new players are to be expected and i myself always help.
So while the idea of maybe not wanting to do a full clear of the dungeon may not be rude, i think him calling you rude for asking to do an area you missed is rude and he clearly does not know what rude means....

[TensaiSogetsu]

Keep in mind that even though you might still be leveling, a higher level player probably is not. Even if they are, tank ques are the quickest of all the types and it's a net loss in EXP to run the whole dungeon every time rather than just doing what needs to be done to clear the dungeon and re-quing. Even while leveling, I would not run full dungeons, it's not efficient.