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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    But more importantly, summons have an in-game, lore reason for being what they are. Whether that was done for technical reasons at first or not, it wouldn't make sense to change it now. Local mods are probably the best solution for people who want larger summons, but I wouldn't expect them to change the game itself.
    Yes and no, I agree just changing it suddenly would be bad but I dislike hearing this reasoning for future thought changes, as we have a lot of wiggle room given character development - like as the level cap increases. Or through quests. Just don't change it in a patch, as that'd be awkward (and retcon). "Everyone, Egi are now 1000% and no NPC is going to act like its news".

    Our reason is that A. its dangerous to summon the full deal and B. we're skimming and not strong / knowledgeable enough to be better (we have a summoner who got bumrushed with too much knowledge too quickly, but I imagine you could easily lore in power efficiency/skill technique over levels rather than all at once as being "safe"/"acceptable").

    Obviously A. can never happen without some serious changes to lore, most of which would be retcon. HOWEVER, B. is not forbidden AND the image of the Egi is now written into lore as just an image. What I mean by this is that you can make a green carbuncle shoot out stone or fire projectiles. What this means is the aether image is not 100% pertinent to the actual power of the Egi, the image's power is not related to the power of the actual pet and therefore you could logically and pointlessly suggest "Godzilla, that punches like a small squirrel". Shouldn't make summons their full size because it would be come a burden to party visuals, but you could easily make them a bit bigger/primal like without significant issue.

    Therefore within the lore we already have, without retcon, we could exaggerate our aether image and not actually be breaking A. You could "look" like you're summoning something far greater than you actually are, and of course the fact at level cap increases you could add to that wiggle room and just make things more powerful.

    Although I'd prefer to just see tiers and gain stronger looking Egi (like Spiritmaster in Aion or Warlock in WoW), but I think everyone has their own preference on summoner at this point.

    Anyway, the tl;dr is the image is no longer significantly restricted within our own current lore AND there is wiggle room to expand our actual power within lore as well - so being /stuck/ with our current images is unnecessary as dictated by lore and increasing our Egi resemblance to primals is also not dictated by lore. Just don't kill the planet, don't summon the full "actual" thing, that's it.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 03-29-2017 at 12:36 AM.