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    Quote Originally Posted by Heal View Post
    i want the cute ones ;o; or both!


    While i myself have no issue with cute effeminate male Viera, i draw the line at children. A child like race should not be introduced for many, many reasons, better to have both genders of any proposed race be fully adult and depicted as such.

    The art depiction child like Viera should be left for the child portrayal of the race in game not as a playable option. This is just my thoughts on this, however i feel it would be more hassle than its worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
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    While i myself have no issue with cute effeminate male Viera, i draw the line at children. A child like race should not be introduced for many, many reasons, better to have both genders of any proposed race be fully adult and depicted as such.

    The art depiction child like Viera should be left for the child portrayal of the race in game not as a playable option. This is just my thoughts on this, however i feel it would be more hassle than its worth.

    So your saying that concept art is bad because they look like children? -_-

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    Sorry, I fail to see what this have to do with how I felt "bummed out" over the official Au Ra and their early concept arts. =/
    Ah srry, been a while on the forum, don't mind the quote plz. XP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    So your saying that concept art is bad because they look like children? -_-



    Ah srry, been a while on the forum, don't mind the quote plz. XP
    Balmung, that's all that needs to be said about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeltal-Bons View Post
    Balmung, that's all that needs to be said about that
    Are you on Balmung? Also I'd like to kindly add, I can say my character is a agressive serial killer that would gut any Eorzean within 4 meters just for fun, and would get off on the smell fresh entrails, especially if its a pregnant woman. Distrubing ain't it?

    In other words: Don't make RP an excuse. Its a very poor argument. No one will deny people would RP that crap, but no ones batting an eye when someone has lala slaves and one just happens to be an underage daughter (as said by a troll in Iddylshire playing the roll of an Eorzean trafficker)

    *shivers*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    So your saying that concept art is bad because they look like children? -_-



    Ah srry, been a while on the forum, don't mind the quote plz. XP
    Ah right, a mistake. Then I understand why it didn't connect. =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    So your saying that concept art is bad because they look like children? -_-
    As an NPC it is fine, as a playable race? Yes it is. You do realize that Lalafell proportions were made specifically so that they cannot be considered children biologically? Their head size in relation to body proportions denote them not being of the human race and not subject to child protection laws concerning children if all forms of media.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    Are you on Balmung? Also I'd like to kindly add, I can say my character is a agressive serial killer that would gut any Eorzean within 4 meters just for fun, and would get off on the smell fresh entrails, especially if its a pregnant woman. Distrubing ain't it?

    In other words: Don't make RP an excuse. Its a very poor argument. No one will deny people would RP that crap, but no ones batting an eye when someone has lala slaves and one just happens to be an underage daughter (as said by a troll in Iddylshire playing the roll of an Eorzean trafficker)

    *shivers*
    I would say that none of that is ok, is absolutely disgusting and should be reported immediately. People like to bring up the idea of since it's already happening it's ok to add ways to facilitate and encourage depraved/ disgusting acts by introducing even more options to fetishize. That mind set is not only sad (in that one gives into abohrant behavior in doing so rewards it) but incredibly short sided (allowing the spread of said behavior to flourish).

    Request have been made to adopt children, play as them, take them on adventures. However it's posed the fact remains, adding any child like race poses issues to the company for how the child is depicted in those situations (attack, dismemberment, death, capture, torture, ect...). to say nothing of the review by ESRB standards in general rating of content. A change that can in fact cause it's ability to sold and offered in certain regions to put into jeopardy.





    Those are clearly meant to be children, they should NOT be options for character creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post


    Those are clearly meant to be children, they should NOT be options for character creation.
    I think the viera in this concept art should be considered. I like how they look. I don't really care what weirdos decide to rp, as long as I don't see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    I would say that none of that is ok, is absolutely disgusting and should be reported immediately. People like to bring up the idea of since it's already happening it's ok to add ways to facilitate and encourage depraved/ disgusting acts by introducing even more options to fetishize. That mind set is not only sad (in that one gives into abohrant behavior in doing so rewards it) but incredibly short sided (allowing the spread of said behavior to flourish).
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    By that logic, they shouldn't add any new race to avoid players from having bad thoughts? Are you reading these?

    Your looking at the same concept art right? They don't look human. Look at the side picture, they're faces resemble that of a rabbits but body proportions of a slight larger lalafell with longer legs. I think you just have a strange way of looking at these character that make them all look like children, in which case your being rather hypocritical right now. Lala's do indeed look like children, but they're simply not. These may look like children, but they're also not. Your making it seem worse than it is. :/

    And yes, I'm in full support of Viera as the next race. Not many other candidates are spoken of more than this to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurogaea View Post
    By that logic, they shouldn't add any new race to avoid players from having bad thoughts? Are you reading these?

    Your looking at the same concept art right? They don't look human. Look at the side picture, they're faces resemble that of a rabbits but body proportions of a slight larger lalafell with longer legs. I think you just have a strange way of looking at these character that make them all look like children, in which case your being rather hypocritical right now. Lala's do indeed look like children, but they're simply not. These may look like children, but they're also not. Your making it seem worse than it is. :/
    Twist the words as you will, objectification of children will never not elicit a strong biased reaction from me, that said i have never said i did not want a new race of adult characters, characters that the aforementioned issues would not apply to.

    The art of the child like Veira i cannot help but think they are simply the child variant of the race, much like every other race has child variants (Au Ra homeland on the way those should be soon to follow, in which case i expect there to be threads asking to play as Au Ra kids...). That being a possibility i feel they are/ never were the option proposed (i concede i could be wrong).
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