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  1. #8481
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    Ok got really annoyed today in Aurum Vale lol. I got in progress. The tank its running around everywhere when I port in and the healer is pulling stuff. So we die a few times because the healer seems to be DPSing more instead of healing, etc. But it's a scholar. o.O So we finally beat the last boss and this happens.



    yea protect totally does nothing...you don't need it as a healer. lol
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  2. #8482
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    Faliandra's Avatar
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    Character
    Lumielle Whisperwind
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Sometimes, you run Dun Scaith and the likes, give it your all, dont get loot, dont get commendations and youre just like "bleh" cos you gotta run it again.

    and sometimes...everything goes picture perfect, you get exactly the loot you came in for and your efforts obviously got appreciated.




    I played AST :x
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  3. #8483
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Character
    Ven Black
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    i've been doing potd since yesterday trying to grind my blm to 60 and get the 255 weapon by the time i hit it, and doing that, you see a lot of strange groups, but the one that really took the cake was my 2nd to last one on floors 61-70.

    We're all doing just fine, nobody talks much, but it's potd so what else would you expect? We're over half done, and i casually mention how i need 1 more arms to be able to grab my 255 weapon, and that i'll be 60 when we finish as well.

    Then, i decide to stray from the path after we've cleared the exit, because we have one room undiscovered yet and i wanted to see if there was a silver chest, it wasn't all the way out of the way, just two rooms over, and i was there and back to the exit within 10 seconds, and then the one of them casually asks me "Hey, what is italy shaped like?" Seeing where this was going, i sarcastically answered with " a glove" and then another said "close."

    and then i was kicked.

    Im about 90% sure those two were together, because i ran into both of them outside in the in-between area between floor sets.

    i filed a report against them for vote kick abuse, and a GM contacted me and we went over what happened, and they said they would review the evidence and take appropriate action against them. Vengeance is sweet.

    They were on my server, and i did contemplate some vigilante justice (ruining their reputation on the server), but i decided to go through the proper channels. Im pretty sure one of them had a little crown next to their name too, if they did, it's probably not for much longer.

    If they hadn't decided to be cocky about it, i wouldn't have known what how or why, and probably wouldn't have gone to the trouble of filing a report.
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    Last edited by Averax; 03-15-2017 at 10:54 AM.

  4. #8484
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Anavi Anael
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Well...just got removed from a leveling roulette and called an elitist because I said, "Hey -sprout tank-, I don't know if anyone has mentioned this to you yet, but you should be using VIT accessories. It'll up your damage and help you hold hate better. "
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  5. #8485
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Character
    Kochie Monster
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Ahhh yes. We must protect the innocent from learning and improving. Lord in heaven, you probably hurt his feelings and he unsubbed.
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  6. #8486
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Dec 2015
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    Character
    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I don't particularly enjoy playing WHM, because it's a rather boring job to me. At its core, it's all about massive amounts of healing and DPSing. No mitigation, nothing. So I much prefer playing SCH and AST.

    That said, I still know how to play WHM. It's boring, but it's also the easiest of all 3 healer jobs to get the hang of. Slap some regens on the tank, turn on Cleric Stance, DPS, turn off Cleric Stance, heal the tank, reapply regens, rinse, repeat.

    I simply cannot understand, for the life of me, how someone can get to Heavensward content playing as a WHM and still not understand these basics of the job. Trying to DPS without Cleric Stance, because turning it on and off is clearly too much work. Never once using Divine Seal or Shroud of Saints, because those are clearly for chumps. Conservation of MP? What does that even mean? Take another pointless, unnecessary, unprocced Cure III and shut up! Or just standing around spamming Medica when the PLD is the only one taking damage, and struggling to keep aggro in the first place because it's a low level dungeon and they don't even have Sword Oath.
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  7. #8487
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    ErryK's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ethan Vayne
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    I'm a caster as well and can solo take down a sword if need be. You know which one I attack? The same one as the rest of the party. You know, to support and coordinate with the other players in the instance.
    But they weren't even done with their sword by the point I'd finished downing my sword and gone to attack the boss... my fault for doing the mechanic as needed and providing a safe spot, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestea View Post
    your gcd means ZERO if you wipe the party cause you refused to move. its like a mnk pulling a boss to avoid losing stacks. ill let them die cause its not their job to pull. Its your job as a dps to work WITH your team not attack the one you feel like
    It's my job as a DPS to deal damage, so I killed a sword, provided a space for the party to move to, and I would be able to stay still to deal damage and not take damage at the same time. I don't see how I'm in the wrong when no one died outside of the MCH "lagging".

    Quote Originally Posted by lvlagmarink View Post
    I'm not gonna make a big deal out of this, but by this logic, healer, tank and the other dps wouldn't know which sword you, as a caster gonna take down because you could be standing anywhere within the area. So either they need to drag their feet away to you after you've killed the sword, or they kill another sword their ways which is closest to them (they failed to so that).

    This reminds me a lot of one BLM in xeltaphol that won't stack and died to the stacking damage mechanic because noone bothered to stack with the blm that stood so far away from the boss, or the blm didnt even bother to come to us despite having manipulation..

    P.s. Just some perspective..
    I'm just gonna say that I'm not stupid, I always manipulate with that mechanic after a cast, but I didn't see the reason to stop what I was doing, move to the middle and deal damage again. While, yes, it would have been the middle sword, which might I add had two people on it as opposed to me taking it down as a solo DPS, I didn't see a reason to if I could clear the one closest to me (within the AOE's range) and provide a safe space to everyone way faster than the two in the middle. Sorry, I just don't get this logic of crapping on me when I did my job???

    Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
    It works out best if the boss and players can stay near the middle to allow more time to run to safe area during boss AOE. This also makes the middle sword the logical one to take down since everybody is already there. Not to mention it is easier for a group of random strangers to understand, "Kill the middle sword" as opposed to "Find the one I've targeted.
    This makes sense, I can see where you're coming from, maybe next time I'll just do the middle one and deal with the loss of damage if it ever occurs. I usually just kill one on the side because it means less movement if the tank opts to stay there, guess I should've just done the middle one if the tank was so adamant about it.
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    Last edited by ErryK; 03-15-2017 at 06:39 PM.



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  8. #8488
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    aesteval's Avatar
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    Character
    Tae Sylphanas
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    But they weren't even done with their sword by the point I'd finished downing my sword and gone to attack the boss... my fault for doing the mechanic as needed and providing a safe spot, right?
    It is your fault for only watching out for yourself and not working with the rest of your party.
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  9. #8489
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    ApprenticeSmithy's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Larrian Gogoan
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Went into neverreap as dragoon to farm for armour, as I'd done dozens of times before, (seriously, that dragoon armour won't drop lol) and had no problems at all. I join, say hello as usual, and all's going well.

    We defeat the first boss, and suddenly, poof, I'm kicked. For what? Surely not 'difference in playstyle' as I was doing the exact same thing as the other dragoon. I didn't die, and I certainly didn't pull anything. Not a word was spoken either. No warning. Just gone. Sheesh. Couldn't help but notice the dragoon and healer were from the same server. Friends maybe? Perhaps they didn't want competition for armour? Who knows... Oh well. At least I managed to open the chest before I vanished. Pity it wasn't dragoon armour. :/
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    Last edited by ApprenticeSmithy; 03-15-2017 at 09:17 PM.

  10. #8490
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Vancouver, BC
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    Character
    Mhaeric Llystrom
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 97
    Yeah, I'm definitely going to agree that killing whichever sword you decide is easiest for you to do instead of doing the mechanic in the way that people are expecting without any communication is not a justified vent. Basically, you're venting that people aren't mind readers and aren't instantly adjusting on the fly to suit someone else unexpectedly doing the mechanic in the way that is different from the usual way. If you communicated this beforehand and they agreed to attempt it that way then your vent might have a leg to stand on, but as it is the 'my way or the highway' attitude in the face of what is the normal way of doing it is what is coming across as worthy of being vented about here to be honest.

    Just a note, you can actually avoid quite a bit of downtime during that phase by careful positioning. E.g. Place yourself between the boss and the middle sword which results in you facing the sword and facing away from the boss. Usually this means standing on top of the tank since they run the boss over to the middle sword and are between them. You can also plan ahead for this, since you'll know which direction the tank is going to run from. Setting it up this way means you can completely ignore flash powder since you're already facing away from him. As an added bonus, most of the time this will also place you in a position where if you get the red knockback marker it will punt you only a short way in the surrounding aoe rather than right to the edge of the arena, since it has to punt you through most of the middle. This ends up resulting in much less movement between casts to put you in the safe area again.
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