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  1. #11
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    Is it really the "minority" that wants more open world content?
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 03-13-2017 at 08:17 AM.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    That was because they had to be HQ, four of them, took multiple specializations, and rare/expensive materials requiring going to diadem.

    Next time, make it a single NQ item with absolutely no specialization requirements from materials that can be obtained from gathering out in the world, a single vendor special vendor item at a reasonable price (think the prices of the items you need for Zhloe), and a few unspoiled node items that do NOT require any of the special folklore books to gather. THAT is how the anima should have been from day one.
    I'm reminded of the original relic step, which just required an easy crafted green weapon and some materia to meld into the thing (relatively cheap and readily available tier IIIs, at worst like 10k per on my server). I don't recall anyone complaining about that, and crafters made BANK then on tips because most people hadn't bothered leveling them yet.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    I'm reminded of the original relic step, which just required an easy crafted green weapon and some materia to meld into the thing (relatively cheap and readily available tier IIIs, at worst like 10k per on my server). I don't recall anyone complaining about that, and crafters made BANK then on tips because most people hadn't bothered leveling them yet.
    Exactly my point, if the anima crafter step had been something more akin to that? There wouldn't have been nearly as much backlash if any at all. I know they wanted the anima to be a grind, but needing the 80 tokens (at the time) was more than enough grind. The crafted part should have been the easiest thing, not one of the most irritating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Is is really the "minority" that wants more open world content?
    Well, from what he said, it seems he's based it off the constant qualms and worries about queue times, but I believe Yoshida doesn't realize it takes a lot less time to make a party than it does to DF a party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Well, from what he said, it seems he's based it off the constant qualms and worries about queue times, but I believe Yoshida doesn't realize it takes a lot less time to make a party than it does to DF a party.
    That's not true, DF matching is faster than sitting out in X town shouting for hours waiting for a tank to join your party, that's the whole reason why MMOs moved away from that and into matchmaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    That's not true, DF matching is faster than sitting out in X town shouting for hours waiting for a tank to join your party, that's the whole reason why MMOs moved away from that and into matchmaking.
    No but it is faster to make a PF party first for a lot of things. Had 11 actually had a proper system like PF it would never of been an issue. As for a minority on open world content I don't think that is true as this seems to be asked all the time. I think SE need to do another opinion poll on things.
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    Last edited by Masekase_Hurricane; 03-13-2017 at 10:16 AM.

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    Y: It is planned as content, and it's still a thing. But it’s a matter of when it would be a perfect fit to have that content released. If the community becomes very tight-knit and sort of like closed almost, kind of like on auto-pilot. If and when that happens is when I feel it’s appropriate to release this kind of content; I'm envisioning a guild versus guild type of scenario. I feel that releasing the content is still way too early at this point, had it not been for so many players being on FF14 yes that’s still kind of the reason we’re needing to monitor the situation. At the time of 2.0 development, we didn’t expect so many people joining the community.
    I really think that he should focus on the basics before adding extras.

    This is one problem that hurts so many extra new content, like Lord of Verminion or Palace of the Dead (that could've been like that FFXI event that everyone talks about, but ended being just another way to level up).

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Is it really the "minority" that wants more open world content?
    This is why I never supported people complaining about FATEs, Hunts, Treasure Maps and so on. It sends the wrong message.

    On the open world -

    I think that the ARR open world is much better than the HW one. Doing Leves, FATEs, questing, etc. is more comfortable on "cramped" areas. Being able to fly was a bad addition in my opinion. You never run into other people, going to places takes much more time (even with flying) than in ARR and most of the world mobs are useless; I tried charging head first in the Sylphlands for the relic and almost died due to how many things I aggroed, while doing beastman dailies in HW, even with i170 gear (equivalent lower than what I have right now), I could just fly to the quest objective (no matter where) and fight the one or two enemies nearby.
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    Last edited by Ririta; 03-13-2017 at 10:40 AM.

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    Matt Hilton: I think your question just boils down to there’s no open world content.
    R: Yes, that’s a big part of the question.
    Y: We understand the demand for it. But we’re not Final Fantasy XI (room laughs) so we don’t have intentions of making it.
    I don't know if this is a misunderstanding on their part, my part or something else entirely but this is the least encouraging thing i've heard about FFXIV in quite some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    That's not true, DF matching is faster than sitting out in X town shouting for hours waiting for a tank to join your party, that's the whole reason why MMOs moved away from that and into matchmaking.
    Like Masekase_Hurricane said, we have PF, shout, FC, linkshells and friends list to find people for our parties. Saying DF is faster than using a combination of those, is ludicrous to be honest. I can get a full party set up in less than a minute, DF can only match that if I queue as a tank.
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    I love all the hate for XI even from Yoshi, its starting to really turn my stomach. Everyone wants XIV to be its own game but yet all its ideas MUST come from WoW in some form, when is enough going to be enough?
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