Since Stormblood is bringing new players: can we please get a warning on Castrum/Prae

[CatStarPrime]

Make the scenes unskippable. And remove Castrum and Prae from all the roulettes, so the only people who enter, are ones who *want* to be there, cinematic glory and all.

I got to run them as a newbie, back when anyone in full Darklight was the coolest of the cool, with my old FC, and it was GREAT. We took our time, emoted tons, danced like crazy, and felt like Warriors of Light

[Ririta]

I will suggest reconvert the dungeon to a 4 man party. Single player is not good. Why shouldn't the people enjoy a dungeon just because started play later? That's very selfish. Also, reduce the duration of cutscenes. They are terrible long. 4 man party with shorter cutscenes. That should be enough. with 4 man, no one will dare to pull, and will short cutscenes, no on will have to wait too much.

When catching up, personally I have more fun in single player duties, as higher geared players don't make it a breeze and I can go in blind without worrying about being a burden.

[Vulcwen]

I'd agree with single player on it, would like it being repeatable still however (SE work on this, then make other single player duties repeatable as well :P)
It would require some slight lore adjustments to do properly however..

But the warning idea is something that should be easy to implement and should help new players that care about story a lot.

[Leanna]

I do MSQ roulette everyday for my relic (sands), and I find new players in almost all of my runs, I just saw the party stop for new players one or two times. I kinda feel pretty bad for the new players that get locked outside of the fights because that did happen to me aswell.

A friend didn't wanted to skip the cutscenes so he made a PF with 4 people to watch them and enjoy the dungeon. SE really should care about the impression they want to give to new players.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

The group ran so fast that I got locked out of the 2nd boss fight - EVEN SKIPPING CUTSCENES. The load times alone made me fall behind.

What hardware are you running that skipping the cut scenes put you that far behind? The only time I've had any issues with load times were when I was on PS3. PS4 load times are much faster (I was loading faster than people playing on PC when the game first appeared on PS4 and I switched to it) and PC load times can be incredibly fast with the right drives.

[Alerion]

They should just make that dungeon single player. I mean it doesn't even make sense to do it with a party, as you get like 8 ppl riding the mount that only your character should know about.

A lot of new players get those two dungeons and leave extremely dissapointed, mainly because the game builds it up to be the finale. Imagine grinding 50 levels thinking this is the end of the story and you get those two trainwrecks...

Exactly this. Rework into a single player instance would solve all problems instantly and make for a good experience for new players.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Make the scenes unskippable. And remove Castrum and Prae from all the roulettes, so the only people who enter, are ones who *want* to be there, cinematic glory and all.

I got to run them as a newbie, back when anyone in full Darklight was the coolest of the cool, with my old FC, and it was GREAT. We took our time, emoted tons, danced like crazy, and felt like Warriors of Light

Try queuing for any Coil fight at the moment. You'll find hours later, it still won't have popped because "no one wants to do it." Why are veteran players going to consistently run Castrum/Prae and sit through 40+ minutes of unskippable cut scenes they have already seen? It will never happen. Except, unlike my Coil example, those are mandatory dungeons if you want to continue to Ishgard. New players would be stuck waiting for a queue that will rarely ever pop.

[CatStarPrime]

Try queuing for any Coil fight at the moment....

BCoB is optional content. No one has to run the coil fights to progress the Main Scenario. But there will (we hope) always be a statistically-significant group of new 50s, who need Castrum and Praetorium.

[Voltyblast]

You sure? I could have sworn someone counted and it was closer to 200. Could be wrong though... But still, there are a bunch of pointless ones they could still cut out. Go talk to this person, go talk to that person for a pointless reason, go back to the first person. Maybe it just seems like forever cause I've done it on 4 alts with 2 more to go. XD Yes, I'm insane.

Just wanting to link this in case someone needs a clue of how many MSQ there are right now https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...cenario_Quests

And yes it's actually 100 quests from Ultima to Ishgard and they're enough to discourage new players into entering Ishgard, "no matter how good the story is" (which is subjective). But considering SB is also story locked and that alone will have most likely 150+ msq - which might be a trouble when it's dungeons because you know, dps queues are going to be worse than ever.

With that said, SB might not bring as many new players as we might think. Not when they will have to endure over 418 main quests (as of this post) JUST to enter the expansion, plus another 100 to just do the endgame.
Will be interesting to see what happens for sure.

[Kaethra]

I believe they need to make a storymode for these dungeons that is solo'able.

Making everyone who's there for something else wait through cutscenes isn't a good idea. That's only going to cause more disdain for newer players then there already is. Segregating vets and newbies is the way to go.

New players want to learn, vets just want to rush, why have them play together? Let them both have what they want. They're both paying.