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  1. #11
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    Xlantaa's Avatar
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    It seems you need to blame someone and the good mentor will pay because there are stupid mentors. Instead of remove mentor system I prefer remove bad mentors. It is simple as "This mentor insulted a player, leave a instance because didn't like it, refuse to help other or kick someone for being new or inexperienced" and remove his status for a time. If he repeat, then remove it forever.

    But hey, it is better call all mentors stupid and insult them, even good ones.
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  2. #12
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    Lauren's Avatar
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    Athelisia Lumi
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Newmanxeno View Post
    I put it in caps because those titles make me laugh, like "how dare you!"
    But would you miss the mentor system?
    I mean I've helped quite a lot of players in the mentor chat as well as queue mentor roulette quite often and offer advice. Not everyone who does mentor staff is horrible.

    But I've seen tons of mentors give terrible advice and/or queue content with the mentor crown on and do nothing to help. I only wear the crown during mentor roulette because it forces you to. But apart from what I don't use it because people who do have a bad rep.
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  3. #13
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Newmanxeno View Post
    I put it in caps because those titles make me laugh, like "how dare you!"
    But would you miss the mentor system?
    Oh, I knew this wasn't another pure "omg all mentors are bad because one kicked someone for asking a question" thing. You just happened to have just the spot I needed to complain about it, rather than make the 596 kerjillionth thread with "point to where the mentor touched you."

    Honestly I don't care either way. I did my mentor business before the system even existed (I have a post in the DF Story thread somewhere a long time back about a Sastasha group I loved because I got to teach three people how to play. ). Only thing I have now is another queue that'll probably give me something I really don't want to do ever again (I'm looking at you, Coil >.>).
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  4. #14
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I would feel sad about novices losing the great resource that the NN is. Losing the Mentor Roulette and crown icons would make me feel indifferent.
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  5. #15
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    Koda Ko
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    Spriggan
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    But I've seen tons of mentors give terrible advice and/or queue content with the mentor crown on and do nothing to help. I only wear the crown during mentor roulette because it forces you to.
    I love when mentors don't have any clue about their own rotations but still give advices to newcomers.

    "Hell yeah i have 700DPS with my i270 full set with a 275 BRD relic, to play properly your BRD you have to do like me !"
    No, just no.
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  6. #16
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    Pandaemonium
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    Honestly? I'd just be happy not to get invite-spammed with the novice network thing anymore on my alts.

    Otherwise, I'd be completely indifferent. It doesn't seem to actually do anything worth mentioning except maybe reduce city /shout a little.
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  7. #17
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    Altena Trife
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Ditch the crown completely. We don't need an icon.
    As for the rewards, change them from "Do 2k mentor roulettes" to something like "Recieve 1000 commendations while participating in mentor roulette".
    This would force people to actually Mentor... Rather than just completing a roulette regardless whether the newbie is still in the instance or not..
    Adding to this, the achievment could also require a sprout to be in the instance for the final boss kill.

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    On our server, the Novice Network is actually pretty good.

    By that I mean there are very minimal arguments among mentors, are generally helpful, and a lot of newbies that ask questions get pretty good answers rather quickly.
    I actually wonder what it would be like to be a newbie without the NN, considering there is so much content / unlock quests etc between 2.0 to now... With many rather unsure about where to look for answers.

    We all know how poorly SE are at actually educating players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Honestly? I'd just be happy not to get invite-spammed with the novice network thing anymore on my alts.

    Otherwise, I'd be completely indifferent. It doesn't seem to actually do anything worth mentioning except maybe reduce city /shout a little.
    I think it's silly that you have to "invite" people to the NN... Sprouts should just get auto-added from the start with the ability to leave if they wish..
    You should also be able to turn your sprout OFF if you wish - for instances like what you mentioned (a vet who isn't actually a new player)..
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    Last edited by Altena; 03-08-2017 at 07:46 PM.

  8. #18
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    Miko Yaong
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    Scholar Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    You should also be able to turn your sprout OFF if you wish - for instances like what you mentioned (a vet who isn't actually a new player)..
    /nastatus off
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  9. #19
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    Altena Trife
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squigley View Post
    /nastatus off
    Good to know! I was rather surprised by Zojha's issue with invite spam on their alts. I presumed this was possible, but then assumed that it wasn't after they had issues with invite spam.

    Thanks for the info!
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  10. #20
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Squigley View Post
    /nastatus off
    ^The above.

    It's also the easiest (only?) way to actually leave the novice network. But it's still annoying that you have to do that extra >_>
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