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    It surely wont be 270, because yoshi himself stated, that 210 was just too high and a mistake. I cant imagine that they make this fault twice
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    It surely wont be 270, because yoshi himself stated, that 210 was just too high and a mistake.
    Then, what's the point ? By now, most people have earned at least i260 gear for several of their jobs. If SE expect them to spend lots of time in Diadem, the rewards have to be better than what you can by simply buy by doing your expert roulette every day.

    Another reason why tomegear is, in my opinion, killing the game.
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  3. #23
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    all raiders cried in douzens of threads, that their gear isnt BiS anymore and that they have to start playing the game again in order to get new BiS, which is nearly impossible because of rng anyway

    so yoshi stated that it was a mistake to make it 210 and that 205 would have been the better choice

    but since this game doesnt caters the needs of raiders anyway, I just hope it will be 270~
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    all raiders cried in douzens of threads, that their gear isnt BiS anymore and that they have to start playing the game again in order to get new BiS, which is nearly impossible because of rng anyway
    Raiders will always cry...while still complaining that they have only Alex Savage to do
    Besides, Diadem has already failed once, not because raiders cried about it, but because the rewards were meaningless. If players are expected to do that content for the next few months, it has to be sexy'ed a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    all raiders cried in douzens of threads, that their gear isnt BiS anymore and that they have to start playing the game again in order to get new BiS, which is nearly impossible because of rng anyway

    so yoshi stated that it was a mistake to make it 210 and that 205 would have been the better choice

    but since this game doesnt caters the needs of raiders anyway, I just hope it will be 270~
    Aren't raiders only like 5% of the population anyways? lol
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    i think diadem will have to add more Glam, Mounts and Minions to keep it sustainable. as well as doing mining, botany and fishing exclusive items.

    It will also need unique monsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Raiders will always cry...while still complaining that they have only Alex Savage to do
    Besides, Diadem has already failed once, not because raiders cried about it, but because the rewards were meaningless. If players are expected to do that content for the next few months, it has to be sexy'ed a lot.
    We're only crying because casuals wanted the same ilvl as we do and we've got no rewards for raiding since it will be outdated in 3 months like always.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    We're only crying because casuals wanted the same ilvl as we do and we've got no rewards for raiding since it will be outdated in 3 months like always.
    but we are getting mounts and minions
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    We're only crying because casuals wanted the same ilvl as we do and we've got no rewards for raiding since it will be outdated in 3 months like always.
    Yeah, I know, but wouldn't you be happy to have something else to do that running Creator Savage weekly for the next 4 months ? Alex gear will still have the prestige tied to it. Wearing a full Creator set is not the same as wearing a full upgraded Scripture set, even if the ilvl is the same.

    The problem is always the same. With vertical progression, you can not have several content relevant at the same time...especially if running daily roulettes will allow you to buy the second best gear in the game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    all raiders cried in douzens of threads, that their gear isnt BiS anymore and that they have to start playing the game again in order to get new BiS, which is nearly impossible because of rng anyway

    so yoshi stated that it was a mistake to make it 210 and that 205 would have been the better choice

    but since this game doesnt caters the needs of raiders anyway, I just hope it will be 270~
    To be fair, at the time Diadem 1.0 released the raid tier was still very much underway considering Gordias' difficulty. We're now what, eight months into Creator? Most raid only players have long since unsubbed. I doubt anyone cares at this stage.
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