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  1. #61
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    Kai_Lee's Avatar
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    Kai Lee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    You do realize, not everyone is a winner
    You do realize, I have to depend on 3 other teammates. Luck plays a lot in the outcome of a match. How come feast isn't simply 1v1 to make it fair?
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  2. #62
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    Also, why is it that raid and ex primals in pve gets echo, unsync and loot unlock eventually?
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  3. #63
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    Arthur_Gwen's Avatar
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    Guinevere Jin
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    White Mage Lv 70
    "That makes no sense.. how is it no effort if you are setting aside time, or prioritizing your time to get that many marks every 2 days for 200 days(6 months and 20 days) after the competition? It's like saying if your bird doesn't drop from an EX, clearing it 99 requires no effort.
    Clearly the problem isn't about it not taking effort, time, skill, and dedication. Your issue is just exclusivity"

    (Don't know why I can't find this original reply to quote)

    So here's the thing, the reward for top 100 means both effort and skills, not merely effort

    I can call a friend and farm 8v8 in healer which I'm not good at with 80%+ win rate
    But my healer in solo still like bronze level (btw 8v8 is much easier now because of pre season ppl all practicing there, which means it's just farm)
    Did you ever seen a bronze healer in top100?

    So why should the bronze healer do a lot wolf mark farm get the same reward as top 100
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    Arthur Jin

  4. #64
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    Enlial's Avatar
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    Aleister Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    I'd feel pretty proud of myself if I had to grind out 4,000,000 wolf marks for one of the 4 mounts. Let alone all 4.
    It'd just be another fenrir. And anyways the core of what you're suggesting is "give us a 'grind' path to the hellhound mount". Attaching "oh, and make it unreasonably hard" to it isn't really a fair point because 1. nobody is really going to want that and it probably wouldn't be set that high in the first place and 2. even if it were, the difficulty wouldn't remain that high over time (just like fenrir didn't)

    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Nobody could get in the top 100
    actually, I could show you about 100 players, per data center, that could
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    Last edited by Enlial; 03-05-2017 at 04:44 PM.

  5. #65
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    You think the difference between getting and not getting top 100 is solely RNG? LOL, this statement clearly reflects how your mind works, and it's one of the first things people with l2p issues blame things on. Wahhh it's always my team, not me?
    So the world should revolve around you, your feelings, and how you think? I'm afraid it doesn't, but it may revolve around me. I propose you stare at people that have the mount and pretend that you have it, because it's likely that's all you can do.
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    Last edited by Meero; 03-05-2017 at 06:33 PM.

  6. #66
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    Allow me to pick apart what is wrong with your post:
    "I've always wanted at least one of the mounts but sadly I started way too late and queues were bad"
    Always wanted... since when? We knew we were getting an exclusive mount since the very beginning of the season, so where were you? Always wanted since a week ago? You make it sound so poetic and yearning. If that's the case, then apparently you haven't wanted it for very long. If you wanted it before then, why did you not put in the time and effort that you knew you needed to put forth to get it? You are the only one responsible for being a procrastinator. There are several things in this game you cannot obtain anymore, and so what makes this one special? I'm waiting. I didn't get both yo-kai mounts. I was around for the event; I knew it wasn't going to be around forever. I only wanted the one, but whose fault would it have been if I wanted both and didn't get it? Mine. Boohoo, it takes too long to get all the weapons? It's too grindy? Tears don't work like they do in the pokemon movie—you know, where pikachu cried and ash came back to life. UGH, that's my movie right there! You're making me all emotional now.

    I see people with ~1300 games played on your data center, as I see on mine. Someone is top 100 diamond there with 124 games played. You couldn't fit in that many games when the 2-week warning was given and everyone was playing? You couldn't fit those games in all season? Ah, but that person with 124 games played is a type of player that you are not. You will likely need more games than that to learn. We all have a learning phase and start somewhere.

    "PvP needs to have long-term goals that aren't solely decided by the RNG that is a bad team"
    Players set the goals for themselves, did you not know? For a goal, how about becoming a better player and always looking for ways to improve? Rewards should come naturally if you made this your goal. Where's the RNG in that? In a given game, you either win or lose, right? That's a 50% chance to win? That alone is enough to get you top 100. Things get a little tricky when you get diamond—you'll find you'll need to do better than 50% for the week to usually end up going up in rating. You must have a high opinion of yourself, right? Can't you at least make that 50% difference?! Everyone gets teammates they'd rather not have, and they get them even more so than you do. You think people at the top have the best luck? On the contrary, they have the worst luck. It is actually hardly luck because do you know there's a matchmaking system? If I'm the only diamond, it's likely to put plats on the other team and give me some gold players that disappoint me to no end. You have it so good the lower rated you are, so please spare me and everyone else. I'm confident that if I watched you play, I could point out a dozen misplays you've made in a given game. I'm confident in saying that if you get a bad team all the time, that the reason is mostly because you're on it, and that's the harsh reality.

    Did you know there is a way to win practically every time in even what is true gambling? Own a casino, and you will come out ahead in the long run. Would you like me to give you a list of things that objectively play a part in what can win and lose a game? Knowing these things would get that RNG in your favor.
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    Last edited by Meero; 03-05-2017 at 09:21 PM.

  7. #67
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    TiaHariberux3's Avatar
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meero View Post
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    Funny thing is I saw OP never in a single feast match (8vs8 and 4vs4) even though I played the last 2 seasons on aether....
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  8. #68
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    Adrian Li
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    Odin
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    No thanks. The people who got in the top 100 went through a lot of stress to get the exclusive reward they finally deserved. I certainly understand that it's not fun seeing people with a mount you won't be able to get, but can't some people have something exclusive? It wouldn't be fair for them either to make it available for everyone. I know it's not fun to work for it and still not get in the top 100, but there's still next season. The competition in season 4 shouldn't be as hard as season 3, and you'll still get the Hellhound. Maybe not in the color you really want, but that won't devalue the exclusiveness of the mount.
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  9. #69
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    Raiders could say the same thing though. Look at the groups trying and trying to clear Alex savage 12. In a few months, it will be a cakewalk and everyone will have that robot mount. Do raiders care that they invested so much time for something everyone can eventually get? No, because that's how the game works.
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  10. #70
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    Kai Lee
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    I suggest SE do the normal season as is but also make a season 3.5 or a season 4.5 where the losers brackets get to join in to fight it out for top 30 soloq and top 10 LP. No one from top 100 of season 3 soloq and season 3 top 30 LP can join.
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