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  1. #191
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    Istaru's Avatar
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    M'telihgo Feilyon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They could always increase the sub fee, I'm sure everyone would be ok with that. Sub's have been 14.99 since I first started playing in the early 2000s. Gaming in general is the only thing I know of that hasn't gone up in price.
    I was going to post something like this. A $14.99 subscription that kept up with inflation would be getting close to $25 now. Conversely, $15 now is equal to about $10.

    We get better graphics and everything like that which is more development cost too. Maybe we should start a petition to increase everyone's sub costs instead of letting some people pay the extra for the items they want:
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    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kling-Klang View Post
    Yeah I would like to know as well where the sub and mog station money is going too, since it somehow doesnt look like it goes back to the game?
    At least if you look what they plan to give us with SB and compare it to HW. And suddenly new emotes are in the mog station too instead via quests ingame. Hmm. Oh well. It will continue like this anyway.
    They lost their shirt on the original version of this game. They raided their general game funds, robbed Peter and Paul and I would not be shocked to hear that the game is still in the red overall or closer to break even than any of us realize.

    Or you can choose to believe that the upper management of SE are stashing all of our money in offshore accounts for their retirement.
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    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by SundayTrash View Post
    I can understand putting past events items on mog station, but new emote/glamour/mount that goes straight to mogstation while not giving active sub a chance to obtain them in game is just pure greed, and whats even worst is that most item are solely single character, or if u have alt or future alt u will have to buy it again.
    Yuuuuup... This is getting ridiculous. I mean, I knew it would only get worse when they first introduced the cash shop but still.

    The prices are still hilariously high, even more.
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  4. #194
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    If I had a dollar for every time this thread has reared its ugly head, I might have enough to buy everything in the mogstation.
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  5. #195
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    Eclair_Xysha's Avatar
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    Eclair Xysha
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    I really don't mind the cash shop option in Mog Station. At least it isnt pay to win. That would throw off the balance.

    It's just pay for vanity and glamour. You don't have to buy those glamours, and it doesn't hurt anyone, really.

    As for where the money is going, I'm just going to put these in but please tell me otherwise that I'm wrong. I would like to know what others would think and I don't discourage other possibilities of where else money would be going.

    So with that said money to: maintain servers, systems and data centers, where are data servers are and there's 3, paying their employees: analysis & developing team and music team, project creators, site runners, cross platform services, advertisement & maraketing, conventions, equipment expenses, promotions, expanding data and memory, customer service care such as GM's or loadstone, physical goods, demand labor work for this game in general, experts & specialists help, hell im sure Nobuo isn't cheap either... Licensing, patents... etc etc
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    Last edited by Eclair_Xysha; 03-01-2017 at 11:32 AM.

  6. #196
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    The problem I have with it is the price. I get the idea of adding extra stuff but a lot of times the cost is too high.

    For example, why is 6 retainers (required to function as a crafter right now) costs more then a legacy sub?

    Why is an emote 7 dollars? or a mount or minions 5 dollars that was free?

    or dyes (item you can only use once and got more scarce in game) 1 dollar each? a mount for 30 dollars? kitty ears for 40?

    AT THE VERY LEAST! make mounts/glamor/emotes/ minions account wide, not 7 dollar emote for one character, wth

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha View Post
    I really don't mind the cash shop option in Mog Station. At least it isnt pay to win. That would throw off the balance.
    Issue! How would it throw THIS game off balance? it is not ffxi, in ffxi I would agree, in ffxiv, I do not see an issue of balance of saying "Here you want a 275 relic? 40 dollars"
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 03-01-2017 at 11:32 AM.

  7. #197
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    For example, why is 6 retainers (required to function as a crafter right now) costs more then a legacy sub?
    It not required to function as a crafter, I have all my crafts and gatherers to 60 and use only use one extra retainer on top of the two it already gives.
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  8. #198
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    Eclair Xysha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Issue! How would it throw THIS game off balance? it is not ffxi, in ffxi I would agree, in ffxiv, I do not see an issue of balance of saying "Here you want a 275 relic? 40 dollars"
    I really do hope that was sarcasm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    It not required to function as a crafter, I have all my crafts and gatherers to 60 and use only use one extra retainer on top of the two it already gives.
    Man if it functioned as a crafter.... lol
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    Last edited by Eclair_Xysha; 03-01-2017 at 11:42 AM.

  9. #199
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    Ama Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    It not required to function as a crafter, I have all my crafts and gatherers to 60 and use only use one extra retainer on top of the two it already gives.
    That does not prove anything. How often do you craft? how much do you sell daily? It is so easy to get to 60, how you use them, is a whole different manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha View Post
    I really do hope that was sarcasm?
    I am dead serious, I want to know how it will effect "balance" in this game. With the players i seen in top gear, I just do not see it.
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  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    That does not prove anything. How often do you craft? how much do you sell daily? It is so easy to get to 60, how you use them, is a whole different manner.
    Crafting and gathering take up a lot of my gameplay cause I don't do raiding. I have 3 specialists and 90% of my gear is made by myself.
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