[Tanks/Healers]: Are you disappointed there is no new job in 4.0?

[Asuras]

Surprised but not disappointed. I usually don't get disappointed until I actually try something and don't like it.

What it seems like to me is that they are working with the same skeleton model code and don't want to mess with it too much as they have a routine down. The Astro weapon model when sheathed is pretty much a Paladin scabbard and shield. I'd rather have more DPS classes than that again.

[Nixxe]

No. I don't even think adding jobs is necessarily a good decision and am hoping they don't feel compelled to keep adding jobs every expansion.

[SummonerSenah]

Not really. The current tanks and healers need some work before they go adding more. Posted this elsewhere but I'll post it here too.

In light of the two new jobs being dps, I hope they are serious about reworking the current tank and healer jobs.

Just a few things I’d like to see addressed for tanks:
-innate “provoke” move for all tanks instead of having to c/c from gladiator
-rework of Living Dead for DRK as its easily the worst “oh crap” move of any of the tanks. Even if they just change it so the DRK doesn’t have to be healed 100%, that would be an improvement
-swap the levels that paladin gets Shield Oath and Sword Oath. The other tanks get their tank stance at 30, it’s rough that paladin has to wait until 40.

For healers I’d love to see all of them get their own Swiftcast instead of having to c/c from thaumuturge.

The cross class system needs work in general tbh.

[Caduagm]

No. I'm not mad about they won't implement a new healer at this expansion. I'm mad because they will nerf ast and sch only because whm is bad and useless. Imo they really should split whm's abilities, give them to ast and scholar and delete this job.

[Ceasaria]

Why do you hold so much anger against AST? Don't kill the Job.

Because Astro is a mix between White Mage and Scholar, its cards are totally RNG, DPS is not interesting at all compared to the two others jobs, and the concept of the Balance destroy the other cards in some way.
In fact, it's lack identity.

[ADVSS]

Not really. The current tanks and healers need some work before they go adding more. Posted this elsewhere but I'll post it here too.

In light of the two new jobs being dps, I hope they are serious about reworking the current tank and healer jobs.

Just a few things I’d like to see addressed for tanks:
-innate “provoke” move for all tanks instead of having to c/c from gladiator
-rework of Living Dead for DRK as its easily the worst “oh crap” move of any of the tanks. Even if they just change it so the DRK doesn’t have to be healed 100%, that would be an improvement
-swap the levels that paladin gets Shield Oath and Sword Oath. The other tanks get their tank stance at 30, it’s rough that paladin has to wait until 40.

pretty sure that most of this will happen. totally agree with all of it esp LD

Im a little less confident as i was a bir before about this rework though a lot of good points were made that it might not be as big as we hope it to be

[seraseth]

As posted in another thread...

Although I main healer, I'm personally glad that there's two new dps coming. For the simple fact that I already have a healer I enjoy playing (I actually like all 3, but whm is my fav), and even a tank I enjoy(although I'm just starting with that).

What I don't have is a dps I enjoy. None of them are quite right for me, and with two dps coming, that's two chances at finding one I like.

[Yonanja]

Not really dissapointed in no new classes.

If the things they change or the new things they add to the tank/healer classes ends up being crap, unbalanced or just lackluster in general, THEN I will be highly dissapointed. New classes isn't really needed, but good improvements on the current classes really is.

[Rokke]

I don't play tank but I do have all healers leveled and would really prefer if they balanced them before the brought me a new toy. All 3 heavensward jobs were kinda lackluster out of the gate. It took overbuffing MCH and AST to get people playing them.

[Oscura]

Disappointed because there's just going to be the same old meta for the next 2 years.

This flat out isn't true. With two new DPS it'll definitely mix things up. Let's also not forget that the whole point is to optimize tanks and healers so you can take a combination of any that you please rather than the "two best ones." Even before MCH became a "necessary" class for comps due to buffs, people were constantly shifting compositions because of the changes to Bard, Dragoon, Monk, BLM and SMN. It took almost a year for this patch to find its identity, and then AST came after that.

Also, am I disappointed in no new healer or tank? Actually, yes. Despite my arguments against people wanting them, I think it would've been cool to see either one.
This however, does not mean we needed either to get a new job.