Why can you do Savage Coil unsynced?

[SuperZay]

From developer's side there's no point to keep old, irrelevant content dead by gating it behind original difficulty. Nobody would do it now so these raids would be just dead files on everyone's hard drives.

I get that the early clearers want to keep their achievement rare as a proof of their skill, but no MMO works like that. It gives them their 15 minutes of fame then allows everyone and their mom to repeat it a year later.

If you want the challenge, do all content when it's relevant. Because soon everyone will catch up and cheese it by massively overgearing.

[Arutan]

From developer's side there's no point to keep old, irrelevant content dead by gating it behind original difficulty.

But what's the point it doing a challenging content without its challenge if it doesn't give anything else? That's the answer I'm waiting for years but still didn't get a decent response.

[Zojha]

But what's the point it doing a challenging content without its challenge if it doesn't give anything else?

Can't you still do it synced or with items of a lower iLvL? If you can, the challenge is still there, if you want it. And truly, you can make any content more challenging simply by changing your own handicap. Try doing a couple raids in min iLvL and first person mode sometime!

[SuperZay]

But what's the point it doing a challenging content without its challenge if it doesn't give anything else? That's the answer I'm waiting for years but still didn't get a decent response.

I did it for an achievement and a title. A good point enough for me. I have also never cleared A8S and A12S but will cheese them unsynched in lv70 gear just for a minion and a mount. And there's nothing you or any elitist can do about it.

You see, people are different and not everyone cares about the challenge. I don't care about the challenge. But I don't mind glamour items in my collection. To each his own.

[Arutan]

The problem with this game is that raiders get nothing decent because at some point everything will get unsynch. Why no one complain about gated Feast glamour and mount for top players but when it comes to raid everyone is whining?

[Aylis]

But what's the point it doing a challenging content without its challenge if it doesn't give anything else? That's the answer I'm waiting for years but still didn't get a decent response.

Challenge is in the eye of the beholder really when it comes to how different players are. Some want the challenge when its fresh and shiny and done the way of its original intent. Some want the challenge of tackling it later on either solo or with a friend or two. Some just don't care for it and are happy with steamrolling it later for either some item or just reliving old memories. That's vertical progression for you, nothing stays pure and clean forever. Usually most that wanted the challenge when it was fresh and new long stopped thinking about older challenges cause they moved on to current challenges. I'm happy things are unsynced, I'd rather see people enjoy the content as they want rather then seeing it just sit there un-used and forgotten.

[RaijinSupreme]

Because people want to?

Is that not a good enough reason?

[dragonseth07]

The problem with this game is that raiders get nothing decent because at some point everything will get unsynch. Why no one complain about gated Feast glamour and mount for top players but when it comes to raid everyone is whining?

Welcome to MMO's. I 2-manned the Lich King with my wife a year ago. It was a blast. Old content does NOT matter. Enforcing level syncs and such is pointless.

[Zojha]

Why no one complain about gated Feast glamour and mount for top players [...]

But people ARE complaining :|

Fun fact, they even dropped a minion out of the top 10 rewards of Feast so minion collectors could get it. (Which might have economical side motivations, seeing as people spend a LOT of money just to keep their minion collection complete)

You do mention something peculiar though: Getting "something decent". That's the entire joke about these debates - despite everyone talking about challenge, it's never truly about challenge; it's only about people wanting to lord their ego over others with exclusive rewards that filthy plebs shouldn't be able to touch ever so that it may not be "devalued" by their impurity. Sense of accomplishment and personal fulfillment? Screw that, it's all about the daily dose of holier than thou. Why even bother raiding otherwise? It always comes boiling down to that. And some people have realized that by now and simply have stopped caring about the desires of the people complaining about the lack of "challenge" as a result, much to the chagrin of the few people who simply want to push themselves to the limit.

[Dzian]

Yes there is. It's a competing element. Not pop competitive but still competitive.

The entire point of savage coil was a challenge with no rewards but the title. Making it easy to get by smashing it unsynced destroys any value that title has.