Regarding Full Party Premades in Frontline and Patch 3.5

[Zojha]

Why don't SE just add NPC's at the spawn point that are overpowered and will attack enemy grand company's.

Knowing SE, they'd botch the coding and the NPCs would end up killing freelancers as well >_>
Personally, I'd take a more "fun" approach: If you get too close to the enemy spawn, you get teleported to a completely random spot on the map. The exact range of the TP zone changes within a certain parameter every 15-30 seconds and is not indicated.

As for premades, or more precisely, troublesome premades, well...I personally just boycott the queue while they're around and try some other time. I got several games and content within this game that's more fun than dealing with them. All I ask of them is that they don't complain about long queues.

[Chevronone]

Premades: Here are my numbers:

I started recording victory counts over the past week concerning 72 man FL on Primal DC, a specific premade and my experience.

Of the 35 matches where I have been on an opposing team vs this specific premade, they have achieved 29 victories out of 35.

Of the 2 times I was matched with this specific premade, we won both.

Granted this is a small data sample and only experience, I feel it indicates a much deeper issue f how unbalances a premade of skilled pvpers is in Frontlines.

[Stormrider]

I believe a few people from servers jump into chat even if they don't que together. Generally the same people are probably skilled to begin with adding an extra advantage. The best way to beat premades is have so many matches going on you see them once a day. They just randomly ruin only your night once but still ruin lots of peoples nights.

[Newmanxeno]

I got my Field Commander coat and never went back to Seal Rock because of this. Not very fun to get murdered over and over again.

[Nirokun]

Granted this is a small data sample and only experience, I feel it indicates a much deeper issue f how unbalances a premade of skilled pvpers is in Frontlines.

Completely unrelated but kinda related:

Unbalanced? Without a doubt. Fun? Absolutely. I personally enjoy fighting against premades, because taking someone's battle high/fever makes me feel like I ruined their day. If I die, that's expected against a premade. If I kill a premade party member it's that much sweeter because they're oh so confident they're untouchable. >

[KuwabaraValefor]

Well, since I'm only a Class Player and can't do the Ranked Feast, I don't see this as a problem. It's just an unseen issue that was ignored by the Development Team. Nothing more. We'll deal with it as it comes.

[Waffles298]

i noticed on the primal data center, if you pvp in the morning you'll get 8v8v8. i can tell you now that the proposed fixes won't help at all when you have an 8v8v8 shatter match, and one, maybe two of the parties were premades.

[Nexxus]

If SE can randomize nation/groupe it would limit premade. Let's say a group of 8 ppl are seeking but they are being split in different groups in differents sides (nation), it would even lead random ppl getting better by playing with thoses that are really into PvP.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Completely unrelated but kinda related:

Unbalanced? Without a doubt. Fun? Absolutely. I personally enjoy fighting against premades, because taking someone's battle high/fever makes me feel like I ruined their day. If I die, that's expected against a premade. If I kill a premade party member it's that much sweeter because they're oh so confident they're untouchable. >

A few corrections:

- Premades ARE beatable.
- Most, if not all premade players understand they are not untouchable. In fact, many of us who've made a name for ourselves or are recognizeable on the battlefield understand that even more given how much we're focused.
- You're not ruining anyone's day simply by ending a streak. If they're good enough to do it once, they can probably just as easily do it again.
- The only two advantages premades have are stronger coordination, and reliability. They cover each other, they look out for each other, healers heal effectively, dps attacks with focus, and tanks mitigate and defend. . . None of this is exclusive to premades, however it's understandable that a group of random players might lack that same sense of cooperation sometimes. Sometimes.

[Chevronone]

Completely unrelated but kinda related:

Unbalanced? Without a doubt. Fun? Absolutely. I personally enjoy fighting against premades

Sure, it may be fun for you or I, but after a while of getting literally stomped into the ground, it gets old. It gets old fast.

Sure premades are "beatable" (and Im not talking about a premade of new pvpers, im talking about premades full of top 100 Feast, Hand of Mercys, ect) by trying to avoid them. You can't always avoid them when they hunt you down.

Its not about "git gud" because there is no getting better or helping new people learn when they cant even stay alive. Frontlines is turning into a joke and the people defending full premades of skilled pvperw by saying "form your own", the actual PvP community is so small and tight-knit they typically will only play with their SWAT teams or not at all.