100M GIL taken

[Solarra]

Sorry to hear what happened to you OP.
Allowing people to promote above their own rank is crazy and it really should be changed. Game Developers of all people should realise that if something can be exploited it will be.

I don't envy you having to unlock the airships, build and level them all over again. We had to do this when we moved and it was a long haul.
The materials you need to 'buy' workshop recipes can't be bought but they can be traded. If any kind FC leaders on Balmung are reading this and have extra, maybe you could help the OP out.

The only thing I can add is that you might consider not giving your alts the same privileges as your main. My alts cannot demolish the workshop, decommission airships or take gil out of the FC chest.
It's a little inconvenient but it's a safeguard. As any FC leader knows, there are a lot of permissions to check/uncheck when you make or change a rank, so if I slip up at any time and somebody accidentally gets the ability to promote themselves, the damage they can do is limited.

[Pintsized]

Sadly nothing will be done.

SE should never allow anyone to promote themselves into a higher position than they are already in.

I didn't actually realise this was possible in XIV till I read this, it's a TERRIBLE flaw in the design of any 'guild' system which I've only seen once before, over a decade ago.

[The_NPC]

Learned about this "semi-broken" feature before Heavensward (back around patch 2.4 I think) to bad it was after one of my RL friends did something... I'll just say reckless (won't elaborate further already put a thread on the Behemoth forum page about it to try & get closer... lost will to rebuild FC when leadership auto-passed to me, still in it thou lmao)... thou I leanred about it when we had jurk FC leaders locking house's keeping members from personal rooms

As horrible as something of that nature can be, as long as u learn from it & strive to never let it happen again, then at lest u haven't givin up which as far as I'm conserned is a good thing (the "not giving up" part)

[Kaelah]

Not to butt in, but perhaps you missed the part where vigioX-Sun said the person should be stoned? As in, have rocks thrown at them until they are dead. I don't think Kaelah was out of line here...

Edit: And I highly doubt they meant the virtual character when they said that.

This is the full context of what was said: <snip>

The fact that there are groups of people in the world who would execute someone over a bunch of cartoons can make it difficult to tell when someone is exaggerating or joking with this stuff. Poe's law in action.

Oh my bad guys I missed that post. Yeah that is silly.

[RubenSnizzle]

Ranks privileges are your responsability, your FC is your responsability, you give these people privilege, it sucks that one of them stole from your FC, but any GM will tell you what im saying. In the future just becareful to who you give previlege and who you thrust.

All you can do now is warn people of that person and possibly blacklist him/her incase they name change.

[Nixxe]

was someone talking about violence?
People should know what kind of trash he is so nobody won't invite him to anything, he can make his own thief FC.

The guy I was responding to literally suggested stoning them to death.

[Gumbercules]

hell my FC is a few considerably close knit ppl and we still have a very restricted and controlled FC just incase >.> We also tend to just leave "petty cash" levels of gil in the bank. Course I and some of them come from WoW though and that game will make you distrustful of your own kin within the week :P

Will admit the settings for FC ranks etc are a bit archaic though, I tend to just make a rank and strip it clean till i see who I am putting in there (tend to leave it with just chat privileges up, sometimes I don't even allow ppl to deposit just incase lol)

[Kosmos992k]

I didn't actually realise this was possible in XIV till I read this, it's a TERRIBLE flaw in the design of any 'guild' system which I've only seen once before, over a decade ago.

Indeed. This single flaw in the FC system should have been fixed years ago. It's a completely critical design flaw. In effect this means that if you create a rank that can promote/demote members and another rank that has bank access, players without bank access can be elevated to the rank required by players who also lack bank access. Actually the only thing players cannot gain through what amounts to an elevation of privilege attack is the FC Master role.

As it stands it actually strongly suggests that all promotion, demotion, kick and bank withdrawal rights are limited to the FC leader, unless you are fortunate enough to have people you can truly trust in officer roles - and even then you are taking a risk.

[Celef]

I don't think I am allowed to say name or share screenshots.

You can't here but this forum is not the center of the universe, let reddit deal with them like suggested ^^

Maybe you should have treated your members better, so they don't have to do something like that. I know many FC leaders are acting like superior, proud, hostile towards new/old members. Even my own FC leader recently has been hostile against a newbie. Then he afraid of him and left the company.

Moral of the story. Don't annoy or harass people, communicate nicely, do good work.

Or maybe the thief is just a douche ? It would not be the first time and it probably won't be the last (I remember that post made my a thief actually being proud of his attitude and bragging about)

[ToasterMan]

I can't tell what's worse. The fact that SE allows this fault to exist in the game or the people in this thread actually defending it.