Mentor Players Kicking newer players from Duty Ques for low DPS

[bardaboo]

Advice and guidance given in a negative way, regardless of how factual and correct it may be, is hardly ever well received. This goes for adults, as well as babies.

Ok so tiptoe on eggshells and still be yelled at... got it

[SDaemon]

Ok so tiptoe on eggshells and still be yelled at... got it

And why exactly do you feel you are tiptoeing on eggshells?

[Underdog2204]

Advice and guidance given in a negative way, regardless of how factual and correct it may be, is hardly ever well received. This goes for adults, as well as babies.

You ever tried giving any advice to many people in DF? I doubt it.

Advice just generally isn't take onboard no matter how it is presented so there is just no point doing it.

[bardaboo]

Feels like you are arguing with me

The majority of responses to POLITE UNSOLICITED advice in lvl 50 and 60 dungeons is either met with silence and ignored or with negative attitude. Thought i covered that.

[SDaemon]

You ever tried giving any advice to many people in DF? I doubt it.

Advice just generally isn't take onboard no matter how it is presented so there is just no point doing it.

You doubt it because...reasons? I've given advice numerous times throughout my dungeons runs. If the person takes it great, it not then so be it, but it has never made me lash out at them negatively.

Feels like you are arguing with me

Well this is a discussion board, so I would be discussing this with you.

[Underdog2204]

You doubt it because...reasons? I've given advice numerous times throughout my dungeons runs. If the person takes it great, it not then so be it, but it has never made me lash out at them negatively.

I doubt it because of you're assumption the person you replied to only gives advice in an aggressive manner. Anyone who's given polite friendly advice is just as likely to be snapped at. So who really is the problem? The mentors or the people to yell at them just coz they are mentors? You tell me...

Same as your assumption now that if it's not taken on board people lash out... I would say it's more a dispondence like "well this is the billionth time now I'm just not gonna bother anymore".

[bardaboo]

Ex: a1s farm for light. 2 bards.... both putting their dots up then using straight shot. This goes on for 3 or 4 clears. I speak up. Direct quote: "hey i notice you guys both open with your dots before you use straight shot. Is there a reason for this?" " to piss off try hards" like... really??? If i was party leader id boot their ass. That's what we put up with.

[SDaemon]

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I made no such assumption. I made a statement about how advice given in a negative way is hardly well received in response to her comment about players being babies when given advice and walking on eggshells. Does she give advice in a negative way? Who knows, that wasn't the message I made. Then she responded about walking on eggshells and still being yelled at, which in return, I asked why she felt that way, apparently causing her to feel we were arguing.

Where did I make this assumption that if it isn't "taken on board people lash out"? (To be frank I'm not sure what you mean by "taken on board")

EDIT: Oh, I see now. You are referring to my statement about when a player doesn't take my advice. How is this an assumption? I'm stating that is has never made me lash out. That isn't an assumption, that is a fact about my actions in direct relation to players on these forum getting irritated when their advice goes unheeded and how they are handling it.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Ex: a1s farm for light. 2 bards.... both putting their dots up then using straight shot. This goes on for 3 or 4 clears. I speak up. Direct quote: "hey i notice you guys both open with your dots before you use straight shot. Is there a reason for this?" " to piss off try hards" like... really??? If i was party leader id boot their ass. That's what we put up with.

You do realize there's an opener where you do exactly that though right?.

[bardaboo]

Well that's why i phrased my question that way. If there was a legitimate reason logic would dictate any normal person would respond with that reason. But nup... attitude. Im a bard and if there was a reason i would have loved to hear it.