Mentor Players Kicking newer players from Duty Ques for low DPS

[Pure3ify]

Just attempted to run Sohr Khai lvl 60 and my gear lvl is 202 so of course I am a newer player. First time running the dungeon and I stated so in the beginning while being friendly and saying hello. Got qued with a Mentor and before we even got to the first boss he/she stated how unhappy he/she was because DPS was too low and we couldnt pull bigger mobs for it. I stated it was because i was a newer player and it was my first run and then without warning I was kicked and removed from party. I re qued up and second time the same thing. Mentor was upset because of lower DPS. So i was kicked again. I have come to find that towards the lvl 60 dungeons people start kicking players who are newer with low gear lvls for that reason. I thought the reason we had Mentor Status in the game was to help newer players not discourage them from playing. I always watch a guide while queing to help others out and not be blind going in. Never had this issue until recently.

[Reaperking386]

It is unfortunate, but there is really nothing you can do about it. Maybe one day you can report mentors and they can revoke their crowns for their abuse of the vote kick button.

[Pure3ify]

Agree. Im honestly quite shocked something like that hasnt been implemented already.

[Arutan]

It is unfortunate, but there is really nothing you can do about it. Maybe one day you can report mentors and they can revoke their crowns for their abuse of the vote kick button.

You can already do that. When you become mentor you have a window telling yu that you agree keeping a good behavior. If you see a jerk mentor you can report him and he'll never be able ever again to be mentor.
In this situation you can also report for judging on someone's DPS and kicking him for that.

[Lexia]

It is unfortunate, but there is really nothing you can do about it. Maybe one day you can report mentors and they can revoke their crowns for their abuse of the vote kick button.

Being a mentor does not protect someone from being punished by a GM. If they kicking you out for low dps they most likely using a parser and using a parser to grief/kick someone out of a party is reportable to a GM, just like any other player.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Being a mentor does not protect someone from being punished by a GM. If they kicking you out for low dps they most likely using a parser and using a parser to grief/kick someone out of a party is reportable to a GM, just like any other player.

Yes but they have to actually say they were parsing or post a DPS number, just saying dps is low doesnt denote using a parser. Its pretty obvious when something that should die in 2 minutes takes 5.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Being a mentor does not protect someone from being punished by a GM. If they kicking you out for low dps they most likely using a parser and using a parser to grief/kick someone out of a party is reportable to a GM, just like any other player.

You can actually see when dps is low you don't need a parser. You can also get a general idea who once you start to look for it. A few ways to tell this is by the speed a mobs hp bar drops, comparing two dps and the speed of their mobs hp drop(As most don't target same mob), Watching what debuffs are being placed on a mob i.e no venom bite or windbite or seeing them on every so often, mage in the party with bard and no foe's, tp bar empty and seeing it not go back up with a tp ability being used, using songs that are not needed during the fight, other peoples tp bars empty and bard not casting paeon, checking their classes and seeing no access to certain actions beneficial to their class.

Yes this is eyeballing but players were doing this way before parsers were available. Parsers just made it easier for people to spot.

[Lexia]

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Well did this mentor do what they suppose to do and try to teach or coach the person how to be better? Looks like from OP post is the mentor thought their dps was too low and instead of doing what they suppose to do and guide someone how to be better they just kicked them without even saying anything.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Well did this mentor do what they suppose to do and try to teach or coach the person how to be better? Looks like from OP post is the mentor thought their dps was too low and instead of doing what they suppose to do and guide someone how to be better they just kicked them without even saying anything.

At lvl 60 in Sohr Kai we shouldn't HAVE to teach players their jobs. ARF, sure, Neverreap and Fractal, sure, beyond that? No. This person has played over 160 hours, they should understand their job basics at this point.

If i had 160 hours in any other game and still didnt know how to play, I'd be laughed at. Here? We coddle them and tell them its ok.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Well did this mentor do what they suppose to do and try to teach or coach the person how to be better? Looks like from OP post is the mentor thought their dps was too low and instead of doing what they suppose to do and guide someone how to be better they just kicked them without even saying anything.

Nope sorry but that person is not a novice at this point. A mentor is there to teach novices how to play the game pre HW. After this point it is up to the player to actually start learning for themselves. Prior to this mentors should point them in the direction of guides for dungeons and their class. They should also help them out with dungeons including explaining the mechanics and answer any questions best they can or at the very least point them in the right direction.

Now as for returning players mentors should help them find their feet again. Now come expansion things will change a little as I expect novice status to be expanded to include HW. As i think they will do this with the addition of the jump potions.