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Oh no mobile doesn't let you edit post I'm so sorry
You can have all the gear in the world, but if you don't doe an AoE to snag all the targets in each group, you really shouldn't be doing large pulls >.>So I was feeling SMN today. I queue Expert. 20 minutes later I finally get in to Baelsar's Wall, new Tank & Healer. WAR uses Deliverance? Okay....they have a lot of HP they must be geared. They proceed to pull all the way to the first gate....& the archers kill the healer & we wipe in 15 seconds. Okay mistakes were made no big deal. I check the Tank's gear....275 Alex Axe. That explains Deliverance I guess.
So round 2 we should pull le....oh the tank pulled to the same spot & the healer died from the same thing. Okay. It's totally fine....oh the healer left. Oh the tank did to. 20 minutes down the drain. For nothing. The full Ilvl 270 tank couldn't pull one less mob. Nope. Had to show off their epeen 3 mob group 270 Deliverance abilities even though it got the healer killed. Twice? Idk might've been a third time in there somewhere. Me & the random DRG expressed our frustration with what had happened & left.
Sigh....
Those archers are a piece of work. When I was doing speedruns of the wall we had to stop, kill the Sagittarius archers, and then continue from there. Without doing that, they autotarget another random player to snipe down, despite having aggro on the main tank. They really, really hurt and when we tried ignoring them the first time we wiped.
I once raided with a SCH that used cure. When I asked them why they said they just liked how it looked better. They have the same potency and same cost so there's nothing technically wrong with it it's just weird since why waste a cross-skill slot?Found a SCH using cure, eos summoned and tank doing small pulls. No CS, no bane nor anything.
(I would like to stress the fact that the SCH was using CURE. Not physick - as a SCH main I cannot even begin to explain how perplexed I was at this... at the end of the run I just walked 4 steps to my bed and proceeded to lay down for 10 minutes. )
Well. Here's a funny little story.
Queue up for Expert Roulette. Get Baelsar's Wall. Tank immediately decides to pull EVERYTHING from start to the gate that blocks off the last pull before the first boss.
They do not bother to check that they've gotten aggro on everything as they go. Nor do they bother to make sure they've grabbed everything once they reached the gate.
Consequently, the Healer died, and shortly after the rest of the party.
The Tank then immediately quit.
Classy.
I got dumped in Baelsar's Wall for my Mentor Roulette. I finish loading in, the gate goes down, and the tank with one DPS take off running before I'm even able to get Protect or Stoneskin up on the party. I pause for a second, thinking surely they'll realize their folly and wait for me.
...Nope! So I just planted my butt right there at the start, watched each of their HP slowly dip more and more until death's sweet embrace took them away. They respawned back at the start where I tossed up the respective buffs and we were on our merry way.
Was that the best way to handle it? Probably not. Did it feel good anyway? You bet it did.
Is pulling everything at Baelsar's Wall before the first boss a good idea at all? I only tanked it so far, haven't dps so don't know how other tanks often do it. With one of the mob having a chance to tether to a dps or healer, couple with the archers I would find it awkward to pull everything at the start. Seems better to kill the first group, then pull everything else afterward, not like you have a choice I guess, when the mobs runs to you.
Please see the last post of the previous page for my thoughts on this.Is pulling everything at Baelsar's Wall before the first boss a good idea at all? I only tanked it so far, haven't dps so don't know how other tanks often do it. With one of the mob having a chance to tether to a dps or healer, couple with the archers I would find it awkward to pull everything at the start. Seems better to kill the first group, then pull everything else afterward, not like you have a choice I guess, when the mobs runs to you.
tl;dr: It's a bad idea.
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