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    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    Mine:
    Opener: QS > Sharp > LL > Enoch > f1 > RS > f3p > pot > f4x2 > f1 > f4 > (f3p if avail) > swift f4 > convert > f4x2 > b3 > b4 > thunder only if slow tick
    f3 > f4x4 > b3 > b4 > thunder only if slow tick or t3 proc avail
    f3 > f4x4 > b3 > thunder or t3 proc if avail

    sharp > f3 > enoch > f1 > f4 > f3p > swift f4> f4x2 > b3 > b4 > thunder only if slow tick
    LL > f3 > f4x5 > b3 > b4 > thunder only if slow tick
    Couple of things:

    You don't need to wait an extra GCD to use the F3p now - and you should be using an OGCD if possible (either swiftcast and/or convert) when you do get a F4 proc.

    Skipping out on Thunder is a large DPS loss. Doing it after enochian is not ideal imo - you want to do it before. The only time you should skip out on reapplying thunder is if you have had a proc at the end of your standard fire rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Couple of things:

    You don't need to wait an extra GCD to use the F3p now - and you should be using an OGCD if possible (either swiftcast and/or convert) when you do get a F4 proc.

    Skipping out on Thunder is a large DPS loss. Doing it after enochian is not ideal imo - you want to do it before. The only time you should skip out on reapplying thunder is if you have had a proc at the end of your standard fire rotation.
    I was trying out a11s in SSS and I finished barely with 5seconds on the clock.

    I tried it again but this time, I use t3 procs everytime i 2 F4s out (ie. only use t3 proc during UI or if in AF, use after 2 F4s)

    I'm having a hard time incorporating the tc (thundercloud) procs :/ because I feel that I should be using F4 as much as possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocopoko View Post
    I was trying out a11s in SSS and I finished barely with 5seconds on the clock.

    I tried it again but this time, I use t3 procs everytime i 2 F4s out (ie. only use t3 proc during UI or if in AF, use after 2 F4s)

    I'm having a hard time incorporating the tc (thundercloud) procs :/ because I feel that I should be using F4 as much as possible
    Why do you feel you are having a hard time? Just so I know where you are coming from? As long as a Thundercloud proc doesn't prevent you from using a Fire 4 in the future, its a DPS gain. And even if it does, in some cases (when you have a low amount of thunder dot left on the boss) its still a DPS gain to flat out substitute (which you rarely have to do with enough spellspeed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Why do you feel you are having a hard time? Just so I know where you are coming from? As long as a Thundercloud proc doesn't prevent you from using a Fire 4 in the future, its a DPS gain. And even if it does, in some cases (when you have a low amount of thunder dot left on the boss) its still a DPS gain to flat out substitute (which you rarely have to do with enough spellspeed).
    Most of the time, I'd choose between getting more Fire 4s and letting the Thundercloud proc drop. Although this is in the Sky, Stone and Sea setting, I felt that not using Fire 4 was bad. Upon reading your reply, I take it that Fire 4 is not always the priority?
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