PvP - Do we really want this kind of thing in Final Fantasy?

[Vahzl]

Final Fantasy games are very clearly based on PvE content, being as they are filled with fantastic and mythical worlds, where story is your drive, and progression is your timeline. Fighting each other is not really in the spirit of the Final Fantasy way, as the games promote coming together to fight the greater evil, not petty battles between the same factions.

While I understand there are people that want to engage in PvP combat, let's try to recall what kind of a debacle "PvP" was in XI. We had:

- Ballista which was just awful, although good for catching your friends out by them not noticing you casting Freeze on them... hehehehe

- Brenner, which was kind of popular with some players on my realm, like they had regular matches and stuff, but the abilities are all so crazy varied in the game, there was little to no balance.

Now lets look at World of Warcraft, and see how that game is constantly being balanced and rebalanced due to the now central focus on PvP. Every ability has to match up to everyone elses, which basically has caused the game to be so homogenized, you basically no longer know what you are fighting, nor does it matter, as every spell and ability has a copied variant for pretty much all classes.

Also with PvP comes a massive amount of rage and anger from younger players, and causes more rifts than you think it might solve, and lets not forget how world PvP leads to ganking and abuse of the system.

This is something that worries me deeply with Final Fantasy, should the game take on a PvP focus. We could be seeing the end to Ancient Magic, selected classes having sleep spells, and class specific abilities as the balancing would be a huge job, but I want to know what people think.

On the flip side, PvP offers a play arena for people to settle disputes, take on each other, place bets and have a little clean fun inside a controlled environment. Some people get no better feeling than beating an equal in combat.

I admit I would love to see a little mini fun arena for people to have a fight with each other, but thats about as far as I ever want to see it go.

So like this post if you do want to see PvP in Final Fantasy XIV...

[Vahzl]

and like this post if you don't want to see PvP in Final Fantasy XIV.

[Risae]

Like this post if you don't care at all.

[Vahzl]

Like this post if you don't care at all.

What a great way to provide developmental feedback to proposed features upcoming, that could define the entire game.

Thumbs up for the most useless poster on the forums.

[Evenstar]

I agree with adding optional PvP, but I also hope they are not going to make the same mistake Blizzard did. Blizzard is constantly (or at least was) balancing classes just to make sure PvP is balanced and fair for all classes. This kinda destroys the PvE aspect of the game from time to time.

FFXI did it right. They added PvP, but hardly balanced the classes for PvP. They just gave you the option to do it, but didn't care too much about it. I trust Yoshi to not completely destroy everything he worked so hard for just for the love of some PvP.

Personally I can do without PvP, but I know some people really want to see it, so I am fine with that as long as it is optional and you do not get balancing issues that completely destroy some classes in PvE aspect of the game.

[Arcell]

I want to see PvP as long as it's kept in its own area that's completely optional. Consensual PvP if you will. As long as it does not interfere with the PvE aspects of the game, it's fine. I think this is what we're getting anyway so I'm happy with it.

With PvP the way they seem to be suggesting it, I doubt we'd see the same kind of anger and rifts you describe above. It's completely optional (I hope). If you like it, do it. If you don't, don't. As it should be.

[Drako]

I've really never tried PVP, I was in XI for like 9 yrs or something, but i never cared to try it. But I'm interested, It doesnt really matter if its put in the game or not, because it isn't forced on you. Sense it will be in a specific area and such. I'd like to try it at least and see what its like, before I make a judgement call on how good/bad it is.

[Wynn]

Like this post if you want to give me free likes

[Xmbei]

double voted :O!!!! because Honestly I am sick of these 2.0 threads lol let us worry about the changes now and see what he has to say in a week or 2 during the next Letter! If you have questions post them on the official topic -.- we have enough of this 2.0 posts with unnumerable duplicates with unofficial polls...

BTW we already answered we wanted PvP back when Yoshi-P put out what we wanted to see in the new FFXIV player poll, and he is using those answers to make 2.0.

[Risae]

What a great way to provide developmental feedback to proposed features upcoming, that could define the entire game.

Thumbs up for the most useless poster on the forums.

I was just giving people another choice. And yes, i do like the idea of optional PvP in the FFXIV Universe.