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    The point im making is that, mathematically and statistically, there are simply fewer opportunities and smaller probabilities of interaction for everyone, on average, on servers that are heterogeneous. Its just math, theres no need to take it personally. You cant argue with math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullmetal View Post
    The point im making is that, mathematically and statistically, there are simply fewer opportunities and smaller probabilities of interaction for everyone, on average, on servers that are heterogeneous. Its just math.
    What math? I log onto a english server and I have a lowered rate of interacting with people due to my lifestyle...Am I to be forced into a totally foriegn server to find people to play with with my current life situationt that only affords me time in the late afternoon?

    What happens if my situation changes, I have to pay (Not available in the plans FYI) to find a proper playerbase again? Not even language wise, just people playing when I happen to play.

    Saying ONLY segregated servers is far more silly than requesting a few locked servers, but even then that idea is cutting away potential players from a global server. I don't see the issue with the current servers, have you ever tried to make a character in XIV and been told you can't because the server is full?

    I don't think so...so I don't see where you are finding that having a NA only server would magically make more NA players appear.
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    I have no problems playing with JP/NA and co at all, the problem I have is never being able to find a great EU linkshell, I had enough in XI staying up late, and its happening all over again in XIV, so I'm kind of forced to go to an EU located server when 2.0 drops, is that right?
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    You realize you have a choice JP, EN, or global server. Ill be playing on EN server myself because that is what I prefer. You shouldn't force people to play with people they don't want to play with or have a language barrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    What math? I log onto a english server and I have a lowered rate of interacting with people due to my lifestyle...Am I to be forced into a totally foriegn server to find people to play with with my current life situationt that only affords me time in the late afternoon?
    Stop and think for a moment. Are you the only English speaker playing FFXI/V in Paris? Highly doubtful. Thus those people will also be playing when you are. Do you think all of NA players sleep at the same time? No. Depending on my schedule, my play time is all over the place. It was with XI too. I never had a problem getting people together that were in my same country on XI, even in the middle of the night/early morning.

    I'm seriously doubting your XI experiences as you present them. It was widely known that most JP players only wanted to play with other JP players. Usually they would only play with NAs who looked up to them as if they were better than the rest of the world, especially when it came to endgame activities. This obviously doesn't mean that they were all like that, but the majority of endgame JP shells were JP only, whereas NA and EU shells mixed more. If you did run most events with JP players, please understand that you were in a minority, even among those that could understand a bit of Japanese, at least enough to be polite, ask how everyone was doing, etc. It wasn't just a language barrier most of the time, it was a superiority complex that they felt they were better than the "noob" NAs.

    What happens if my situation changes, I have to pay (Not available in the plans FYI) to find a proper playerbase again? Not even language wise, just people playing when I happen to play.
    Again, even if your personal play time doesn't match up with the typical prime time, it doesn't matter much. You can easily find people at nearly any time of the day, even on English only servers. If the servers are language based instead of regional, it's even better, because then you will be on servers with people all over the world who speak English.

    Saying ONLY segregated servers is far more silly than requesting a few locked servers, but even then that idea is cutting away potential players from a global server. I don't see the issue with the current servers, have you ever tried to make a character in XIV and been told you can't because the server is full?
    It won't be ONLY segregated servers. If the majority of people don't want to play on global servers (which is what everyone is going chicken little about since they think they will be barren) then the majority should not have to play the way YOU want them to because it benefits people like YOU. You still have your option for global servers. If the rest of the players don't want to join those, that is their own choice.

    I don't think so...so I don't see where you are finding that having a NA only server would magically make more NA players appear.
    Think of this:

    I am on a server and there are 3000 players online. All of them speak English. There are potentially 2,999 players in my selection pool to choose from.

    Now:

    I am on a server and there are 3000 players online. 1,000 speak English. 1,000 speak Japanese. 1,000 speak French, German, Spanish, etc. 700 of those JP players will not even think of playing with me because of the language barrier. 300 (some might be in the 700, others know how to speak English though and are additional to those 700) JP players won't even think of playing with me because I'm not Japanese. Now factor in that maybe 100 of the remaining JP players are willing to play with me, but how many of them are in my level range? Most other players will play with me, though some might not feel comfortable with the language barrier. I have gone from potentially 2,999 other players to 1,000 English speakers, maybe 2 or 3 JP players in my level range that are willing to play with me, and say 900 EU players. 1,903 players, and the EU/NA players are still not all in my level range.

    Do you see what people are getting at now? Global servers work fine when everyone is willing to play with everyone. They do not work when you have one region of special snowflakes who want to stick to themselves. I have nothing against playing with anyone, I don't want my point to be misunderstood at all. I have a problem being forced to play on a server where a large portion of people absolutely will not play with me simply because they only want to play with their own people.
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    Guys...dont forget about world-less system/content-finder system, If you happen to need party and no one available,the system will pick people from all server....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    Do you see what people are getting at now?
    You're right, your completely-fabricated facts about mythical servers where only 3000 people are allowed to play and all of them do so 24 hours a day without sleep or work are completely proving your point.
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    Language specific servers is one of the most wanted features for Japan as seen in this 93 page topic

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%84%E3%81%A6

    There are many English speaking people like myself who would prefer English only servers as well. More people to play with and when I send someone a tell I know they understand what I am saying and easier overall to group with people.

    SE is still having global servers if you like that kind of server you can play on one of those. So I do not see a problem with what they are doing at all with the V 2.0 servers.
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    i hate language specific servers, i myself have a japanese only LS and i don't speak japanese, they helped me a lot when i started ff14, so some of this statements are not true for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Many Japanese players if you let them are very good at speaking english, and once they have some confidence usually relish nothing more than a chance to practice talking with a native speaker. The claims of Xenophobic Japanese players are unfounded
    i found this statement is opposite to be exactly, its true that not all JP are xenophobic, its true that they speak english, but most of them wont party with you because language is a barrier, they do not want to use auto-trans because is hectic and you can't find the right words, etc etc and the list goes on. and you know what? they have the right to do so. making language-specific servers is a "no-brainer".
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