DEVS: May we PLEASE have an answer regarding the Feast and the Quick Chat feature?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

That's what the player community believes to be the reason, but having said nothing at all, it seems like the change was pushed without any regard to player feedback. And speaking of;



If that were so true, then the thread we made the day it was announced that is STILL continuing over in the PvP section would have warranted a response by now. As it has not, I am making yet another appeal to the Devs through the forums, as they so often welcome us to do.

It actually has the complete opposite effect, by creating more threads on the issue it could be the same people liking each thread. Now if all of them where together the likes are combined showing SE that the community are in favour of it. All you have done creating another thread is made it more difficult to see how players feel.

[Sicno]

It actually has the complete opposite effect, by creating more threads on the issue it could be the same people liking each thread. Now if all of them where together the likes are combined showing SE that the community are in favour of it. All you have done creating another thread is made it more difficult to see how players feel.

No, this is more along the lines of "mods/devs don't read the PvP forums but they do read the general discussion forums".

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Again, I cite the fact that PvPers were quick to organize and speak out on the matter, and continued to do so from the day it was announced. And STILL even now. We've exhausted every reasonable method to give feedback, short of avoiding/boycotting the content altogether. Making the claim that another thread was counterproductive seems wrong, as many other issues have been addressed in a similar manner before. I'm not demanding an answer, nor spamming the forums. But complaints about inability to get the Feast Season 3 top 10 minion were answered within 10 days. The questions regarding the Garo gear available through the Gold Saucer were answered within a day. This matter that is directly gameplay related has gone unanswered, and that is not okay. Would it be okay if this kind of impactful change was made to raiding or even just regular dungeons, seemingly without reason? If the answer is no, why then are we PvPers expected to simply accept the change as is, without question OR answer?

From my experience, I want no part in the feast. I tried it a couple of times, and got yelled at, and treated like crap for being new. It ruined the experience for me, and I honestly feel reluctant to try again. This feature is honestly a blessing to me, because maybe now I can participate, and feel less hostile. Frontlines can get edgy, but it's rarely ever intolerable as my feast experiences. You can point the blame on me, but when I walked in, I did so to have fun. I didn't need any of the disrespect, which in my opinion is inexcusable. It doesn't make me a special snowflake, and it isn't making me triggered. Triggered is just a term people use to shrug off people in uncomfortable situatons. It's not actually an accurate term most of the time, granted there are exceptions.

First, how you were treated was not okay at all. No one deserves flak for being new, and while I know things like that DO happen (and let me say as a regular PvPer, it happens to a minimum), it's still not okay. I will ask however if anyone made attempts to give advice or tips, and if you listened to them? I say that because many times I've seen newer people come in expecting the worst, and maintain a defensive posture in the face of criticism (constructive or not) or show a general disdain for the content. It should be said that most players are willing to give advice to someone newer simply because they want to win, and the community is too small to go chasing off new people who may be interested.

The bigger issue is that, even if you do want to participate, you may not have to bear hostility and that's great. But you will not receive help either. Aside from marking a target and hoping you and the rest of the team know to attack that target, I wouldn't be able to explain perhaps that the healer I marked has used all their big cooldowns and would be prone to a focused attack, or that a tank has 10 stacks of medals and is thus as weak as a DPS. When the fight becomes a deadlock on either team's bridge, I can't tell you someone with most of the other team's medals is hiding in the back and if you flank around you can draw him out, or that standing there all grouped up is a very bad position to be in because they have a SMN on their team. If you're a healer, you can't even ask for MP anymore.

I'm all for fair chances and proper, sportsman-like conduct, but not at the cost of effective communication which is a core of teamwork and victory. So, while this change may seem great to you, it's not worth its cost, especially when situations like what you unfortunately had to experience were thankfully not the norm.

[TiaHariberux3]

Its abit annoying to open another thread while I dont like the chat restriction its not fair to act like we are being ignored on this topic for months. Thing is they heard the negative feedback but still wanted to release it to atleast try it without chat. I think we probably get a reply close to the next patch. Also its not a minimum in fact you have hard time as new player people build clique etc. its pure salt from its finest and trashtalking ppl (even good ppl that just have a bad match) is often seen. What people forget even without chat people make fun of you (twitch chat etc.) but thats just normal in such an environment especially if the pvpers all know each other and can tell easily who is new or not.

[KusoWat]

Its abit annoying to open another thread while I dont like the chat restriction its not fair to act like we are being ignored on this topic for months.

Have you seen the other thread? It's been ignored for a long time.

[loreleidiangelo]

From my experience, I want no part in the feast. I tried it a couple of times, and got yelled at, and treated like crap for being new. It ruined the experience for me, and I honestly feel reluctant to try again. This feature is honestly a blessing to me, because maybe now I can participate, and feel less hostile. Frontlines can get edgy, but it's rarely ever intolerable as my feast experiences. You can point the blame on me, but when I walked in, I did so to have fun. I didn't need any of the disrespect, which in my opinion is inexcusable. It doesn't make me a special snowflake, and it isn't making me triggered. Triggered is just a term people use to shrug off people in uncomfortable situatons. It's not actually an accurate term most of the time, granted there are exceptions.

You're just gonna queue in now, still have no idea what to do with no one able to tell you or help you, and when you derp up they're gonna stand over your corpse and spam the {Nice job!} macro over and over. Instead of being able to clearly report that player for harassment, they're gonna tell a GM that English isn't their first language and they were just trying to encourage you, not troll you. Meanwhile, if they'd been free to tell you to get cancer and die in a fire, there would be clear-cut evidence present for a GM to ban them, thus removing them from the content altogether.

Great system, yeah?

[Jandor]

I think we can all agree that whenever someone uses the 'good job' quick chat they're being sarcastic right? Lets not let a little thing like chat being disabled stop us!

[TiaHariberux3]

Have you seen the other thread? It's been ignored for a long time.

Ye I did and the thread was made when it got announced they obviously didnt replied back then cause they wanted to see the feature and collect data/feedback how it is when ppl actually have to play with it. They made it clear pretty early that they want to release the feature first before considering other solutions. Did you even read my post?

[Gumbercules]

thing is they did say why they were doing it (player harassment) on a live letter. reason they haven't responded is because outside of platitudes they probably don't have anything to report at this time. Keep in mind that overall this is a "pet project" (pvp in general) for Yoshi-P and he is trying to make it successful enough to warrant further development of said feature. (I could be wrong but I really see the pvp aspect maybe not being that popular among his fellow devs XD) So this might have been an over reaching move, but it is meant to allow ppl easier access to said content and "competitive" lvls of pvp tend to involve voice chat for the most part. (not suggesting its a good reason to restrict chat just saying that across the board it is the norm)

[KusoWat]

Did you even read my post?

I did, but your post is just an assumption so nothing has been made "clear" as you say. Nobody representing SE has had any comments on this system even though it has been unanimously regarded as negative throughout the entire pvp community, and even the greater portion of the non-pvp community.