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    Quote Originally Posted by Yiazy View Post
    But youre also forgetting that cure doesnt exclusively belong to conjury. Amdapoor existed long before the rise of Conjury, and we know how they developed white magics in reaction to Mhach with the creation of black magic. So in truth its very very possible that White magic was taken from something much much older than Amdapoor, most likely even predating the Allagans.
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    I wish I'd thought of this metaphor in the original post, but to illustrate what I meant, think of language.

    A single word (it's unique, exact combination of spelling, pronunciation, definition, connotation, etc.) might not exist for very long at all. But those who knew that word carry its soul across time and space, where it gives birth to new combinations. The spelling changes, sections are added or removed, people change how it is spoken; perhaps it takes on an entirely new meaning or connotation. Perhaps only some of those facets are still valuable, perhaps invaluable parts are carried on forever. The root of the English word Gymnasium means "a place to be naked", but we understand it as a "place to exercise" because the people who gave birth to the soul of the word undressed for physical training.

    I assume that spells are much the same. The soul of the spell lives on, but how it the incantation is spoken, what energies are utilized, how the mage wields those energies, and the power that spell is capable off all might change along the way, branching into spells with similar effects, spells with spells with similar names, spells with similar effects and similar names, spells that bear only the slightest hint that they were ever related to that original seed.

    Whether or not any are "the same" spell ... the pedants will probably never stop arguing over that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    A single word (it's unique, exact combination of spelling, pronunciation, definition, connotation, etc.) might not exist for very long at all. But those who knew that word carry its soul across time and space, where it gives birth to new combinations. The spelling changes, sections are added or removed, people change how it is spoken; perhaps it takes on an entirely new meaning or connotation. <snip>
    Bolded part is my emphasis, but take that + the book in Gubal HM about the Council of the Magi's decision to rename their Cure spells from Cure, Cura, Curaja, etc. to Cure, Cure II, Cure III, etc. for that exact scenario. Assuming some of the surviving Amdapori went back to the Shroud after the flood to take refuge in what became Gelmorra, or any part of the Shroud (after all, it was Hyurs that became Padjal) they would have had to change the way the magic worked, but kept the same effect of what they wanted.
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