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    I know it's been talked about, but seriously. No Jump Potions, here is why.

    I'm not going to get long winded here, but I will try to make the case as to why Jump Potions are downright NOT A GOOD THING for this game, using the primary comparison of WoW.

    WoW's problem through the years is debatable I'm sure, but I believe that the problem was most certainly this: They removed PLAYER INVESTMENT in the game. Through the expansions, they started invalidating insane amounts of their own content, making everything super easy to achieve, and Jump Potions came out, causing new players NOT TO BE INVESTED in their time in this game! I put a crazy amount of time into my character on this game, and I've been playing since beta, the only reason why is because this game made we want to stay, it made me want to see more and do more.

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    The reason for that is because I became invested though my adventures, though the hours of grinding, though the story. I would make the case that making new players go through this process is not a bad thing at all, and having them being able to jump to level 50 or skip the story with a PAID ITEM, which I consider to be pay to win, something Yoshi P said he HATES, is going to start the beginning of the end of FFXIV, just the the mistakes WoW made by invalidating old content, making things to easy, and allowing a process that does not create player investment.

    I'm asking as many players who feel the same way I do to speak out, as FFXIV has been better at one thing than any others: They will listen if we talk about it loud enough. Please speak your mind on this, and speak out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razeluxe View Post
    The reason for that is because I became invested though my adventures, though the hours of grinding, though the story. I would make the case that
    You mention wow well wow still destroys this game in profit and Ive never even played it, I love this game its my home but this is just business for SE. And I want to see this game dominate mmos because it deserves it , this game is too progression based to not have a jump potion new content only last for months at a time. SE just wants to be competitive in their respective market and we shouldnt knock them for it.
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    Last edited by bswpayton; 01-16-2017 at 04:02 AM.

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    I do no care for the jump potions myself, but they are hardly pay to win. Pay to Win gives you an advantage over other players. I will say though even though I don't like the idea Yoshida has a point. I've seen people in my own guild struggle with catching up and burn out. Let's face it's a lot of work to catch up to your friends now. And we are not just talking work in gearing out. There are real road blocks where you have to go through a lot of useless run here pet the chocobo type filler quests mixed in with the actual main story quest. If I recall going from the final vanilla ARR quest to get to heavensward is 100 quests. Some of which are awesome story some of which are filler. I can see how players get bogged down. Furthermore, not every player will buy a jump potion. There are players like you and I that will do all the quests. This will give the others that might leave if they had do all that options.
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    I cant say I agree, especially when you say it's not pay to win. You are getting an advantage over players who actually played the game to get to level 50, in exchange for money. That is pay to win. Or the very least, one definition of it.
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    You didn't need to make a whole new thread for this. If you disagree just put your opinion in the official thread for it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    You didn't need to make a whole new thread for this. If you disagree just put your opinion in the official thread for it...
    I apologize this thread offended you.
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    Oh boo hoo... I have been playing since launch and put some many hours into my character. Now newbies will be able to reasonably catch up to me skipping a grind and irrelevant content a lot of people dont want to do in a game that has gotten too huge with expansions and patches and keeps getting too big. I dont feel special anymore. Me e-achievements dont have the same weight anymore. Feel so outraged. Woe is me...
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    Last edited by Steelthunder; 01-16-2017 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelthunder View Post
    Oh boo hoo... I have been playing since launch and put some many hours into my character. Now newbies will be able to reasonably catch up to me skipping a grind and irrelevant content a lot of people dont want to do in a game that has gotten too huge with expansions and patches and keeps getting too big. I dont feel special anymore. Me e-achievements dont have the same weight anymore. Feel so outraged. Woe is me...
    Good luck for them to clear A3S pre-nerf... ahhh no they can't, it was nerf
    They could try to beat my 7695 achievement points, but they will need as many hours as me to do it at least.
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    I agree, no more stupid thread like this.
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