Purposely DCing should be reportable

[Intangir]

i think it is more of a community issue than it is a gameplay issue. one reason i prefer to play with friends

[Fluffernuff]

giving any sort of penalty in the current system against a "victim" will open the doors for abuse far more than the intended purpose.

there's too much power between 2 people as it is. Just imagine trying to give advice to that ice mage... but they take it as an attack and their tank or healer girlfriend comes to their aid, aaaaand....
you're gone after 1 or 2 bosses. eating a penalty, wasting your time spent in the dungeon, and you STILL have to wait for that queue afterwords. The system needs to be a bit better before I'm willing to give more power to the "DF community".


Although, I have to ask, because I never understood the mentality of avoiding the penalty if the excuse is "I have to leave" or something.

If you're leaving, you shouldn't be back before the penalty is gone. and it's not like even the worst DF roulettes take that long, considering you were already 5 minutes into a run to even get kicked. and if it's a dungeon you don't like from a roulette.... well you're asking for the boot, and that's going to take 5 minutes?

Sooo.... why is this a thing? I can't imagine people don't understand how time works... so what's the reasoning here?

[Culfinrandir]

Yes it is reportable & if you have chat confirmation then the GMs will act on it. You can copy the chat text into the report as suggested in the information box.

[Mirch]

how can you like forcebly dc i mean demn i wouldnt do it, my net is already slow and lol

[Phileas]

how can you like forcebly dc i mean demn i wouldnt do it, my net is already slow and lol

just turn off the modem/wifi router

[Arcsol93]

As I've said in the OP, it's understandable when a persons net is actually acting up, or the servers just aren't working right. But when you have a person actually -say- in chat that they aren't running the dungeon anymore, because they don't want to deal with one of the longer dungeons (Neverreap) and then dc right after...that is just a really horrible way to play a game by.

Not to mention it alienates people who actually -do- have net issues in general. Initially I did want to just sit and wait for the person to log back on, but that is just wasting my other fellow party members time trying to deal with a troll like that and go through the dungeon even slower.

What frustrated me wasn't people who dc from actual issues, but people who purposely manipulate the system and feel they can take that attitude with them wherever they go without punishment. I have never seen it in my 3 years of playing before, and I just want to prevent others from picking up that very same terrible attitude and ruining what is otherwise a very awesome community. Now that I know it's reportable with chat logs, I will keep that in mind for future instances, thanks~ :3

[LineageRazor]

As others have noted, if the individual explicitly mouthed off about the d/c being deliberate, report them. If there's actual in-game text evidence, the GMs have a lot more to go on than just some irate player who's SURE that they did it on purpose so why aren't you punishing them gawd GMs are so useless!!1!

Sadly, very few people are actually stupid enough to spell it out when they're abusing d/c. Most of the time, like after the third wipe when the tank just so coincidentally happens to d/c, they just quietly disappear. There's not a lot that GMs can do about that - and as others have said in the thread, granting PLAYERS the ability to apply punishments is a dangerous step to take. While it's extremely frustrating to see someone shirk the abandon duty punishment in this way, it's certainly the case that folks DO kick people for petty reasons - something that's bad enough even without stacking a thirty minute penalty on top!

Speaking from a strictly personal standpoint, however, I WOULD like players to have the option to apply a penalty to their kicks; an extra checkbox you can tic. I tend to be more concerned with punishing the guilty than I am with protecting the innocent, and I am not so cynical to believe that abuse of this system would be widespread. The fact that you actually have to tic a checkbox for the punishment to be applied means that only the trolliest of trolls will bother, and for those cases accumulated GM reports will eventually punish the kickers anyway.

[Clawbriar]

A system that'd automatically punish disconnects on the premise that it may or may not be to get out of a duty is really odd to ask for.

I mean, I'm pretty sure someone deliberately saying they're going to disconnect is grounds for a report anyway.

[VanilleFang]

Everyone is giving advice on situations that don't even pertain to the discussion at hand. Everyone knows some people lose connection for multiple reasons, that's not what this thread is about. This thread is about people who disconnect on purpose, and state as such, so that they will be kicked and avoid a penalty. Discussing situations where people lose connection due to bad Internet or whatever is irrelevant to the discussion.

How exactly would this be abused? If there is a stipulation in place that they have to actually mention that they are doing it on purpose for the above reasons than you wouldn't be able to effectively report innocent people.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I would like to ask how a computer/machine can tell the difference between someone pulling the plug and someone having legit internet issues?