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  1. #21
    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    Horrible idea.

    I'm fairly certain if you're asking for this you haven't touched 150+. No healer? Dead. Someone not on the ball with dodges? Dead, potentially even wiping the entire party. Some random pulling hate on a Chimera at a bad time?

    Welp, there goes hours wasted for everyone.
    Pretty much this. Good luck with Behemoth on 170 (?) with randoms. I cleared 200, and the last 30 or so floors are some of the most mentally draining things I've ever done in this game. The rng nature of the place has you on edge constantly, because you know that one false move (chimera trains anyone?) is gonna make the last 4 hours you spent in the place mean absolutely nothing.
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  2. #22
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The reason this isn\\'t run much is because it is glamor content with a large time commitment making it hard for someone like me who really wants to do it. You can get a mount from it. I collect mounts which is pretty much the big pay off from it.

    Why is it locked out of DF still? You can even queue for savage in raid finder which is progression content. I really hope this is put in df soon.
    Players have been asking for content designed for groups / fcs for a long time. A reason to actually do something with there fcs /friends or others rather than just pug it in duty finder. It's small but potd is a start.

    As for the time commitment. I really disagree. It saves after every 10 floors so even if you only have 45-60 minutes to play you could still make progress.

    I've been doing it with the same group of people for 1.5 - 2 hours every Sunday (excluding the last 2 Christmas and new year) at floor 190 currently. probably have done it if we didn't farm floor for aetherpool.

    It really doesn't take much time at all. 2 hours once a week. it's hardly a huge time commitment.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 01-04-2017 at 09:32 PM.

  3. #23
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    Evan Lionheart
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    Cerberus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    As for the time commitment. I really disagree. It saves after every 10 floors so even if you only had 30 -45 minutes to play you could still make progress.
    Tbh, floors 100-150 feels absolutely unnecessary and is the same boring/nochallenge/timesink/etc grind, as floors 51-100.
    It would be better if they just released 151-200 as 101-150, skipping those 50 filler floors.
    p.s. I like how location/design changes when you step into 151+ zone.


    (a copy from my other post):

    Wasting 6+ hours everytime just to get to a Floor 180+, when the "real challenge" starts (for some people it's 170+), is a huge repellent factor for me and some of my friends, i.e. i need to endure 51-170+ boringness until things start to get interesting, and no (this is an answer to some another person), you are not in a "tension" all the time in PotD, unless someone trigger 3-4 traps at once, while spawning Mimic and fighting mobs. Not until you hit that 170(180) Floor, that's when the "tension" part starts.

    Even my best IRL friend refusing to go to PotD now after 3 runs, he don't want to "waste any more time on it" and his main argument is pretty much "Floors 51-150 offers no challenge and no rewards, i will fall asleep before completing that XXX times again, sorry". He only likes gold bags, though.

    TL;DR Would be nice if 101-150 didn't existed.
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    Last edited by Zeonsilt; 01-04-2017 at 09:48 PM.

  4. #24
    Player Clethoria's Avatar
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    Y'aschas Massif
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    This is the risk you take when you run with a matched. That's what makes it fun. Choosing who I can take in with me is boring. Where is the challenge there?
    Then why don't you keep running matched? Don't lump literally everyone in with what you, personally- find fun.
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    Last edited by Clethoria; 01-04-2017 at 10:01 PM.

  5. #25
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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    it's hardly a huge time commitment.
    Most of the people in my FC that run PotD don't try to run just 10 floors a week, they try to run the whole thing in one day. So that 4-8 hours or w/e is a pretty significant amount of time to lose. I'd actually feel WORSE if I spent 9 weeks getting to floor 190 and wipe than grinding away my saturday afternoon and wiping. I've avoided it simply due to the having to start over at lvl 51. Like others have said, 51-150 is very boring unless the party is bad and losing that time grinding through boring floors is just not worth it to me. I factor in "potential time lost" in my time commitment, not just setting aside time to do something, I guess.

    I would prefer starting at 101 but wiping on floors 101-150 will only make you restart on the floor after the last boss you beat (111,121,131,141). Then on 151+, if you wipe, you lose all progress and start over at 101. To me, that would get more people to at least try it since the starting levels aren't that punishing. I'd settle for just starting at 101, tbh.
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  6. #26
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    Zigabar's Avatar
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I agree with those that are asking to allow fixed parties to start at 101, if they've gotten there at least once. 51-100 is a slog.
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    Last edited by Zigabar; 01-04-2017 at 11:46 PM. Reason: changed "matched" to "fixed"
    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    I hate the fact that 8+ hours are required to devote to it at that very moment. Good luck finding 3 other people of complementary classes to want to sit down and do that stuff for 8 hours.
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  8. #28
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    Zigabar's Avatar
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I hate the fact that 8+ hours are required to devote to it at that very moment. Good luck finding 3 other people of complementary classes to want to sit down and do that stuff for 8 hours.
    Who says you have to do all the floors in one sitting? My friends and I run it for 1-3 hours about once a week.
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

  9. #29
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    You've failed to understand the point of floors 101-200. All you're asking for is the ability to get bad players that ruin your save file by wiping you, though.

    And no, the hard-Gameover on a teamwipe does NOT need to be removed. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.
    Actually no. Floors 101-200 isn't really hard enough to require a fixed party. And the great thing about opening it in the Duty Finder is that if people want to take the risk of getting wiped because of a bad player, they understood that when they used the Duty Finder, yet you can still go in with a fixed party if you want.

    Having more options isn't a bad thing, especially for content that really isn't that hard.
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  10. #30
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    It should be challenging and require coordination but at the same time it shouldn't be a complete pain to get a group together.
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