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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    So you agree that having multiple ways to obtain collaboration event items is a good thing, then?
    They probably meant for this event to be for PVP only like how the other event was for FATEs. But they assume people would whine about PVP so they gave them something ez to get slightly watered down alternatives. I mean how does this Garo thing relate to Saucer gameplay?

    So I guess you would've received this better if they didn't have the saucer alternative I guess? Imo people should be happy that they even did that.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    I mean how does this Garo thing relate to Saucer gameplay?
    How does Garo relate to PvP? I mean the literal translation seems to be "Fanged Wolf", but it's kind of a stretch to automatically tie everything wolf related to PvP.
    What it looks like to me, is a mature version of Power Rangers, with these "Makai Knights" dealing with "Horrors" (demons). Doesn't really seem PvP related to me.

    Considering this is a limited time collaboration event, obtaining the event items will likely involve a currency that can be obtained through PvP matches (regardless of whether the team wins or loses).
    I suppose the PvPers will have to enjoy dealing with players who are just there to farm currency with minimal/no effort, possibly ruining a good amount of matches.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    How does Garo relate to PvP? I mean the literal translation seems to be "Fanged Wolf", but it's kind of a stretch to automatically tie everything wolf related to PvP.
    What it looks like to me, is a mature version of Power Rangers, with these "Makai Knights" dealing with "Horrors" (demons). Doesn't really seem PvP related to me.

    Considering this is a limited time collaboration event, obtaining the event items will likely involve a currency that can be obtained through PvP matches (regardless of whether the team wins or loses).
    I suppose the PvPers will have to enjoy dealing with players who are just there to farm currency with minimal/no effort, possibly ruining a good amount of matches.
    If PvP is clearly the only practical requirement to obtain the items, I expect lot of idle manderville dancers during the matches xD
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    But enjoy PvPing with players who likely won't pull their own weight to obtain points for the event gear, since I doubt they'll be tied to winning PvP matches.
    A bunch of people who don't want to do something to get gear? Sounds like any activity in ffxiv....
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  5. #15
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    So applying that logic, if people don't like to PvE should every event have a PvP alternative?
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevronone View Post
    So applying that logic, if people don't like to PvE should every event have a PvP alternative?
    I'd be perfectly fine with every collaboration event having both a PvE and a PvP way of obtaining the items.
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  7. #17
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    Nunomo Nikozo
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    I don't understand the argument here.

    If you want the outfit. go to gold saucer
    If you want the outfit and it being dyeable. go do PvP

    What's the problem here. I don't like this idea or concept of rewarding the lazy. If you want the dyeable versions. Put the effort into earning it, Gold saucer version is probably going to ridiculously easy to obtain while dyeable version will probably be on the same tier as trying to get the yokai weapons/final mount.
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    Last edited by Yukumazi; 12-26-2016 at 07:10 PM.

  8. #18
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    Hope mounts will be available in both way Pvp and gold saucer.
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  9. #19
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    Lorelei Larkin
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    This was a fantastic idea for Square. Despite the grind, the Yokai event was completed by so many people and had gigantic activity for fates throughout the world. Hopefully this will be the same and introduce a lot of new people to PVP who otherwise would not have tried it.

    Doubtless, as always, there will be complaints from both sides...people who don't want to attempt PVP and PVPers who will be paired with new players. Either way, PVP is dying a slow and horrible death and this is a great choice from Square to open it more to the general player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryannex View Post
    Either way, PVP is dying a slow and horrible death and this is a great choice from Square to open it more to the general player base.
    And as always, there will be a short burst of activity and then PvP will go back to dying. Because in the end, nothing has changed, SE only threw some rewards at the problem.

    Just as I thought it was going alright
    I find out I'm wrong, when I thought I was right
    S'always the same, it's just a shame, that's all ♪
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