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    Miyha Manaya
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    Astrologian Lv 70

    Possibly raiding on SCH now...

    AST has been my main since I started playing at HW launch, and I've been raiding on it all tiers until (possibly) just now: I have a potential new static, and they want me to raid on SCH. Which is fine, because I consider it my secondary job. :P

    My question is: how should I meld for Savage raiding? I know crit is the major stat for SCHs, but to hit the accuracy cap (or get anywhere near it) I'll have to meld full accuracy (aside from my accs which I have melded with vit). Should I go full accuracy with vit on my accessories and only prioritize crit on gear? Should I only socket to a certain amount of acc then do the rest as crit, and if so, how much acc should I have?

    Any other tips for raiding on SCH would be much appreciated, too!
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Well, you have the right idea with melding. Acc to cap at all costs, Crit if you're a fast learner of mechanics, Vit if you feel that you need to have a buffer for any random mistakes. Food like Grilled Sweetfish will help you get to the Accuracy cap (592).
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    Chii Soseriouz
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    You'll want to meld your left side with accuracy since those pieces will be capped with vit already. If you have any 250 hq crafted jewelry you can pentameld to meet your accuracy needs while you're upgrading to 270 bis , hq pentamelded is better then 260 shire, since you can use the first slot for a vit V then have four slots for heavens' eye.
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    Like said, meld accuracy until cap, then crit for the rest. Choose gear with crit for every slot if you can (if you can't go with spellspeed instead). In raids, use Eos' Whispering Dawn combo, Deployment Tactics adlo and Indominability to your advantage. Emergency Tactics is also great for situations in which you need to quickly fill the group or tank's HP. Don't forget to utilise Eos' magic damage decreasing ability. Enjoy!
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    Just want to mention how it's working for me: I will be placing a lot of accuracy in my relic (121 points all in all) and then meld the rest into my left pieces, except the boots.
    Because with relic + melds + buff-food I will hit exactly 600 Acc. I will meld Crit and Spellspeed in the rest of the pieces ^^ (Spellspeed in those where crit is already capped.)

    As far as I discoverd it's not necessary to meld any VIT, except you are really really undergeared!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Just want to mention how it's working for me: I will be placing a lot of accuracy in my relic (121 points all in all) and then meld the rest into my left pieces, except the boots.
    Because with relic + melds + buff-food I will hit exactly 600 Acc. I will meld Crit and Spellspeed in the rest of the pieces ^^ (Spellspeed in those where crit is already capped.)

    As far as I discoverd it's not necessary to meld any VIT, except you are really really undergeared!
    Personally I do not recommend building your relic to be Accuracy based.
    Relics are always 10~15 ilevels behind the current Patch (Example: in 3.4, relic is i240, Sophia Weapon is i255).

    If you were to go the route of having an accuracy relic and meld other stuff for your equipment, you are basically locked into your relic weapon, unable to use higher ilevel weapons unless you remeld all your other equipment.

    Of course this advice is sorta moot now, as the next relic step is within sight now, but this is something to consider for the future .
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Personally I do not recommend building your relic to be Accuracy based.
    Relics are always 10~15 ilevels behind the current Patch (Example: in 3.4, relic is i240, Sophia Weapon is i255).

    If you were to go the route of having an accuracy relic and meld other stuff for your equipment, you are basically locked into your relic weapon, unable to use higher ilevel weapons unless you remeld all your other equipment.

    Of course this advice is sorta moot now, as the next relic step is within sight now, but this is something to consider for the future .
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3951931

    The relic will be stronger than the alex one after the next Upgrade. So it's totally fine on focusing on the Relic by now. Christmas and New Years Eve will (most likely) cut some raiding time. 3.5 will also most likely hit before the Scholar book drops.
    In the future you wont be able to focus on that, since there is no relic weapon with the normal raid cycle. (Especially with the first tier in 4.0)
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    Last edited by Amaret; 12-16-2016 at 05:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
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    Well, I can see your point but I have been raiding with the Sophia book so far (because of lazyness and not finishing relic by now x'D), which is 5 ilvl below current relic and I did totally fine.
    Of course you should always watch out for the best weapon you could have, but I decided that I neither want the Alex nor the Shire weapon. (Yes, they are stronger in the first place, but a little bit of theory crafting and comparing stat weights, showed me the relic is totally fine for me raiding.)
    When it comes to Acc, sure, as off heal you should always hit the cap, or at least get as close as possible, but (and again that is a very personal point of view so please just see it as an opinion/ possible way to handle things!) I pick the other stats first, such as crit/det/spellspeed. I am a healer in the first place and I want my adlo to crit and my heals to be in place more than anything else. ^^ Damage and 100% hit rate is just an addition to it.

    Just to mention: The current relic is 5 ilvl above what is needed for A12s, so everyone should be fine to at least get the kill with it. After that it's up to everyones preferences to either take the alex/upgraded shire weapon and maybe have not so great stats, or, and that's what I'd (me, myself, personally!) always prefer, stay with the "weaker" weapon but have your stats well balanced.
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 12-16-2016 at 06:14 PM.

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    Well its all a matter of opinion, just want to let people know the limitations of having an Accuracy healer weapon during progression .
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    Yeah, I understand what you mean, but you don't usually change your weapon every 2 weeks, right? At least I am not doing it.

    And for me, I just want to let people know you can raid and beat A12s even without having an ilvl 275 weapon (well, of course, because you only get it from there x'D) and that it's totally fine to stay with your ilvl260 in order to not screw up your stats, even though you may already own the 275. ^^ (Not to mention that I literally can't imagine any BiS with the 275 Alex weapon for SCH that wants to focus on DPS )
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