Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[BorisDaBlade]

This is why a parser is usefull..

This could just be poor ast play, or they were friends. Some people still think brds are underpowered and the single target nin/melee are inherently stronger. If I see a brd singing their heart out, they are going to be getting all my ewer cards so I can get the longer foes for more dps!! lol.

Parsers, could be a great tool, but we all know it would be used and abused to call out terrible play and/or harassment.

[bardaboo]

It's still a punishable offense. Plus most skilled players don't need a parser to know if someone is bad. Gib ps4 a parser pls

[VanilleFang]

I queued for ARF Roulette as WHM and got ARF (shocker).

All I have the say: I died twice before the first boss. I can't heal myself enough to tank the big pulls.

[JunseiKei]

This is why a parser is usefull.

A lot of players don't realize that bard, ninja and machinist pull around the same numbers. Even though ninja is melee, compared to monk and dragoon, their DPS falls short, but their raid utility is highly useful. In dungeons, though, between a bard and a ninja, bard has far more sustainable AoE DPS than the ninja will. Between a bard and dragoon, the bard might stay on top and between a monk and a bard, that monk, assuming both are playing to the best of their abilities, is getting all my cards. Monk AoE ability is seriously not to be underestimated.

[Yeol]

Was trying to help a group on PF to get their A9S kill. They looked like a full static only missing ranged.
I was responsible to take care of spider, except that I didn't know we'll see it 3-4 time.
Saw phases I never saw before. I had no clue where to go or what to do with the spider.
Felt very bad for wasting their time

[HyoMinPark]

Trial roulette. Titan HM. New person bonus.
Long story short: new person was the other healer (I was on SCH). Kept standing with MT and ate the tank busters.
Tell them to be careful not to do that...you would think they would realize that after they died three times to it, but didn't really have time to explain the fight since everyone was ready to go-go-go!
DPS eating Weight of the Lands. I get killed by the bomb boulders both times, and then I get accused of being the new person.
Hardly. But when you're trying to heal all the DPS eating the AOEs, and have to keep raising the new healer because they keep eating the mountain buster, raising the DPS because they're dying from the AOEs, not much time to heal yourself, and I was continuously out of Aetherflow stacks from Lustrating the MT when I wasn't raising the rest of the party. And Eos just wasn't enough.

I'm definitely not the best SCH, but I don't have any issues healing HM primals. >.> It does help when your party doesn't just decide to eat all of the AOEs, though. I watched the DPS do it several times. Bomb boulder damage, and Titan's jumps are unavoidable, but not his Weight of the Lands.

We wiped twice. And the first time, an argument broke out between two DPS because one used ranged LB instead of letting the melee do it. Just...ugh. Think it's time to take a break now.

[Frowny]

It's still a punishable offense. Plus most skilled players don't need a parser to know if someone is bad. Gib ps4 a parser pls

Old misconception. Yoshi has basically said he doesn't care as ALL world-first and serious raiders need/use it (useful for seeing if someone is goofing, if you'll even clear before enrage etc). The issue comes when it is used to harass. All parsers do is intercept, copy and interpret the data. There's really no way for them to detect it short of PB style memory scanning. It is only against the ToS (more of a grey area) to "prevent toxicity" though everyone knows that exists without said tool.

.Surprise im Top dps with over 1/3 more than the ninja on the whole run... And this is with him getting the card all the time and me nothing...

With 2 DPS, it really doesn't matter if one is always fed Balance especially in regular content. The only time it REALLY matters is in EX/Savage. Still not a good habit, but not make or break. Still better than the ASTs I STILL get who insist my DRG needs arrow and throw a fit when I ask "please don't" and keep turning it off.

[Vidu]

Expertroulette yesterday: Me and my monk-friend ended up in Xelphalot with a german bard and a french scholar.
Run starts great with the bard going afk for the first minute, sprinting to reach us afterwards, going afk between groups again and again, using sprint, not having any TP to do anything etc. So I ask if everything is alright - turns out they're actually cooking, which leads to me offering them to leave the dungeon to focus on that (sorry, not willing to carry dead meat through dungeons like this), they refuse but apparently turn down the oven and promise to focus now.

And granted... they dont use sprint that often anymore, but they also arent using their most basic skills - dots are falling off left and right (if they were up), the crit-buff disappears for minutes, AoEs are being used on single-targets etc. etc. All in all: I dealt more damage on my paladin.
So I began to give short tips and notices and even stayed with that bard after we finished the dungeon to suggest looking into a guide - the explantion I got btw "I'm still getting used to this class". No. You dont get used to a class, an easy one as bard even, on level 60 and learn to keep your crit-buff up when your ilvl is something around 240 and you've done The Creator.
But after all they listend to advice and didnt mind it... so, I should be happy about that, right...? Right? And not think to much about a level 60 bard who hasnt discovered any of his skills...

[Squigley]

"I'm still getting used to this class". No. You dont get used to a class, ..., on level 60

I had a similar case some time ago in Xelpha. Although in this case it was the tank, a warrior. At first he was just standing around for some time. We told him to put on his tank stance and go ahead. "What's that?" and my warning sirens went off. He did eventually move but didn't put on any stance. Nor use any aoe-threat skills. So I was the BLM tank once again. After some struggling (and finally the tank stance) we made it to the first boss. A few minutes of waiting and "You're the tank, you're supposed to pull". "Oh." But nothing happened, except our votekick and I had to ask a friend of mine to tank.

Does the POTD produce players like this?

[HyoMinPark]

Does the POTD produce players like this?

I definitely think that it doesn't help that some people go into PotD explicitly to level jobs to max level, and don't bother to attempt to read the tooltips or anything. I know with the amount of speed runs that go on in PotD makes it difficult to stop and read tooltips in the duty, but that doesn't mean they can't read the tooltips after they acquire the skills out of PotD.

I explicitly stopped running PotD on anything that wasn't max level, because I would prefer to level up and learn how to play a job properly, and I just don't feel like PotD does that for me. Others may feel differently, but considering I have run into several that don't seem to know what their skills do since PotD came out (granted, this happened before as well, but it just seems more frequent now), I would rather learn things the old-fashioned way.

I actually ran into a DRK that didn't even bother to do their level 30 job quest. They just jumped into PotD to level it. Funny enough, PotD didn't actually give them Darkside (according to them, they couldn't find the skill anywhere in their job skills, and actually had no idea what I was talking about when I asked them why they weren't using the skill), so they couldn't use half of their toolkit (I met them on floors 41-50, and they were already level 60 inside PotD). Outside of PotD, they were in their 50s. And they didn't seem concerned that they couldn't use any of the skills that actually make a DRK a DRK. It was awful...