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  1. #7231
    Player
    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Lelane Lavellan
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    If its normal, you wanna aim for an empty line of just you and him. Really depends where he is being tanked. In savage for us he is usually between the 2 button on the edge so we are free to run to the wall where no one should be. For normal, just run in a line with the least people to one of the electric sides if possible, rarely OT that one so not 100% but basically just commit to it so the dps/healers can move out of the way.
    That's what I was trying to do. He was tanked in the middle right at the back, not a position that gives you a lot of room on either side, so I ended up running at a 45 degree angle from the boss so that I wouldn't be too close and take a ton of damage. I did it exactly the same both times, and there was plenty of time for others to run away if necessary. I ran another run afterwards, where the boss was tanked as you describe, and when the tether came it was run directly to the other side and all the melee parted like the Red Sea. Which is what I normally see happen, hence my confusion that the ninja got killed twice and it was apparently my fault.
    (2)

  2. #7232
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    A11 normal, and seeing no fewer than 4 new people is kind of intimidating. Still, I'm not so far gone that I automatically leave just because someone is new, and with luck, I never will be that jaded.

    I suggested taking the time to explain mechanics, started explaining mechanics, and was faced with the problem that there are just so many little tips and tricks about the fight as a whole that it's almost impossible to explain it in its entirety, in any sort of reasonable timeframe. The tank decided to pull while I was still explaining mechanics, but I'm amazed I even got any time at all to explain anything.

    Note to devs: Having "Optical Sight" be the name for approximately 2-3 different kinds of attacks for the boss makes it really difficult and annoying to describe the fight.

    I spent most of the first attempt juggling my rotation, dodging, and typing out mechanics explanations as they were happening, while fighting a bad case of the shivers, because I was slowly freezing to death at the time. We wiped, and the most tragic thing about that was that we were so close to LB3 and the healers could've picked us all up, but nope.

    Still, we cleared it on the 2nd try. 4 new people, on A11. True, 5 people including me were all dead when we cleared it, but we cleared it. And that's why I don't eat a penalty just because someone is new.
    (4)

  3. #7233
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    I was just in a gubal run where everything went flawlessly and we finished in 15 minutes. Last boss didn't even have a chance to cast meteor
    (3)

  4. #7234
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    UnstablePersonality's Avatar
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    Aug 2015
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    Ishgard
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    Character
    Athena Nightreaper
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Had a ninja in expert, dps was quite slow...and I assume it was them mainly because no Kiss of the wasp or whatever that and the other buff is, No Huton, nothing but oh god, let me tell ya, they sure had some priority's like when they stopped to whine about the dps, in front of the boss...and took 3 cleaves to the face and died.
    (5)

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  5. #7235
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    The Mist, Ward 9, Plot 2
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    Xoria Tepes
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Here's one that happened just a moment ago:
    Paladin can't keep hate on trash or the boss. Both DPS are constantly pulling aggro as well as the healer. After the first boss is when we finally say something after nearly wiping, mainly due to all four of us taking damage nearly the entire time.

    (Click the image to make it bigger)
    This is one of the reasons why you can't mentor in FFXIV - not the way it should be, anyway. It's not like you can report the guy, even though he's purposely potentially screwing you over if other tanks decide to leave immediately (which did happen until we finally got one that stayed). All this person cared about is, I guess, the feeling of being bullied because other players were too nice to stop and telling them they aren't performing their job previously, potentially running into the same situation we did. An overly sensitive player being told they aren't doing what they need to be doing, being called out on it and then dealing with a tantrum.

    And yes, the tank said that and left immediately; so fast that they were gone before the "just helping" got sent.
    (15)
    Last edited by JunseiKei; 12-11-2016 at 07:45 AM.

  6. #7236
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    alythias's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Esja Fiala
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    To the random PUG that just had to deal with my connection issues and crap tanking in Toto-Rak, I am so so so sorry. My flashes weren't going off, my combos wouldn't proc, and I disconnected while trying to grab a photocell from the first room. Hopefully a much more stable tank was able to save you. ;__;
    (3)

  7. #7237
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    My expert today was three elezen and a lalafel. Guess which one was tanking. Thought that was funny. Even in 24 raids, it's rare to run into another Elezen and here we are making up 75% of the party.
    (4)

  8. #7238
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Aru Tirauland
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    My expert today was three elezen and a lalafel. Guess which one was tanking. Thought that was funny. Even in 24 raids, it's rare to run into another Elezen and here we are making up 75% of the party.
    I know, right?! Funny enough, I ran into three other Elezen in my expert roulette today

    #elezenmasterrace
    #moreelezenforeorzea
    (3)

  9. #7239
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    This exchange that recently happened during D.Darkhold (I'm playing an alt).


    Colour coded for convenience.

    The NIN (who I do not know) only pulled ahead once and that's because they didn't expect the tank to STOP before the Aether Crystals after we killed the drakes. The first time the NIN 'pulled' something was in the same place, but with the drakes still alive. Tank didn't move out of the Aether Crystal area, so the skeletons noticed the NIN and then all hell broke loose (but at the time, the tank just commented on how obnoxious that area was).

    Tanks, if you have a DPS running ahead and pulling mobs, ask them to stop that. If they persist, then let them keep the mob... but do not. EVER. Punish the party overall because one player got under your skin. That is how you make a kick towards you justifiable. I asked my FC if there was a tank available, just in case.

    (21)

  10. #7240
    Player
    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I hate to be that player, but why does it always feel like it's tanks?
    (10)
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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