[DEV REQUEST] Please make the Hellhound Obtainable By More than Just the Top 100 PVP

[Nezerius]

So you saying the difference of the savage and normal version which is just if its dyeable or not is easier to notice than the difference between s1 and s2 gear which not only have different details but also different colour schemes?

Y'know, if you had started with that screenshot right away, instead of posting on how the sets are rank 1-100 instead of 10-100, this could've been avoided.

For you both coats dyed in same colour imo more easily to see the difference than some gordias/midas gear.

Although I still won't agree with this. I still think it's easier to see the color difference between normal/savage Gordias/Midas gear, than it is to see the color difference between the S1 and S2 Feast gear. But I suppose that's just something we'll have to agree to disagree on.

[Yukiko]

So you saying the difference of the savage and normal version which is just if its dyeable or not is easier to notice than the difference between s1 and s2 gear which not only have different details but also different colour schemes? Logic? Also the rest of your other post had nothing to do with what I said so yea didnt bothered to reply to that only pointed ur wrong statement out that u made earlier.

For you both coats dyed in same colour imo more easily to see the difference than some gordias/midas gear.

Isnt that prove that mostly the "same" gonna win those top 100 rewards?
I mean: Once you are top 100, why you will stop being top 100 next season?!
As if you magically will lose your combat skills...

[Aviars]

Isnt that prove that mostly the "same" gonna win those top 100 rewards?
I mean: Once you are top 100, why you will stop being top 100 next season?!
As if you magically will lose your combat skills...

Almost as if they are trying to reward talent....

The horror.

Y'know, if you had started with that screenshot right away, instead of posting on how the sets are rank 1-100 instead of 10-100, this could've been avoided.

The armor sets are 1-100 since they all get the armor ;]

Besides that, you were clearly trying to state the armor isn't different at all. Sometimes you should just admit you were wrong rather than nit-pick the difference between 1-100 and 10-100 8)

[Nirokun]

So there's 200 guys in your datacenter (not even server) that are running around with a Feast rank 11-100 glamour set. Will you be waking up in the middle of the night because 10 more players obtain it, if they so choose to go for that reward over the new thing?
Bonus question: How do you differentiate between season 1 and season 2 rank 11-100 players? (hint: you can't)

Last I checked, no one ever talked about changing the rank 1 reward, which is a literal trophy. But perhaps they could do something that'd make rank 1 players a bit more clear to see, perhaps a different trim to their character's unitframe?

You've been corrected multiple times about being completely wrong about these rewards. I saw it before I went to bed, and by the time I got up, you were corrected, then you backpedaled, then just hit "agree to disagree" because you were caught being wrong but couldnt accept it.

When I say trophy, I mean all of the top 100 rewards, they're trophies for placing in the top 100. I don't mean just the first place reward (that is nowhere as easily visible as gear or a mount). But I can see how that would be unclear to you.

(hint: why I left out the top 10) But enjoy the slightly different trimmings and slightly different belt on the two sets, I guess.

Next time I see someone wearing it, I'll know their exact rank in whichever previous season (without looking it up).

I don't know how a big protruding golden wolf head is easily confused for a flat bronze-y eagle. This is probably the most distinguishing feature between the sets (there are others, but much more subtle).

This is about distinguishing rank 11-100 Season 1 players from rank 11-100 Season 2 players, which includes the non-PvPers that see PvPers running around with those sets. Are you saying everyone will be able to spot those slightly differences right away?
In comparison, players will easily spot the difference between a normal Gordias/Midas set and its savage version, due to the fact that the savage version can be dyed (despite the fact that there's no differences in the actual model).

But the fact that you latched unto such a small part of my post just validates the rest of it.

Just because you had no idea there were 2 sets (of which there are 2 variations for solo and party ranked), doesn't mean nobody else will. Gordias/Midas normal/savage is identical if not dyed... PVP sets have different themes/styles/colors, and dye differently. My S1 Solo coat dyed does not look the same as a S1 Party coat, even if the scheme is the same. I'm sorry you don't know about the rewards you're trying to obtain out of season.

Y'know, if you had started with that screenshot right away, instead of posting on how the sets are rank 1-100 instead of 10-100, this could've been avoided.

Although I still won't agree with this. I still think it's easier to see the color difference between normal/savage Gordias/Midas gear, than it is to see the color difference between the S1 and S2 Feast gear. But I suppose that's just something we'll have to agree to disagree on.

"This could have been avoided", you mean, where you show everyone you don't know what you're talking about? I've been in Feast all night and I can clearly tell who's wearing S1 and who's wearing S2, it's clear as day.

I felt it was important to reply to you, who was so sure they were right, and we were wrong.

[TiaHariberux3]

Isnt that prove that mostly the "same" gonna win those top 100 rewards?
I mean: Once you are top 100, why you will stop being top 100 next season?!
As if you magically will lose your combat skills...

Shame on me to not take a break for 4months while s2 was going on. While I cant deny that mostly same ppl get these rewards everyone can try. Also my pic isn't "prove" at all since I obtained them in 2 different datacentre which proves the point that competition is different.

[Lambdafish]

Isnt that prove that mostly the "same" gonna win those top 100 rewards?
I mean: Once you are top 100, why you will stop being top 100 next season?!
As if you magically will lose your combat skills...

Why even bother competing for world first? Why even bother competing in any pro level competitive tournament? Naturally the same teams will win every time... I'm not saying that everyone here will magically make it in the top 100, but thats the point, it's a competition (that you don't win by not participating).

[Stormfur]

I posted my original thread in the Japanese forum as well (translated of course), so we will see what happens. Hopefully it gets noticed!

[Nezerius]

You've been corrected once about being wrong about these rewards. I saw it before I went to bed, and by the time I got up, you were corrected, then you further questioned about the differences, then accepted you were wrong given the proper evidence.

Fixed that for you. The "agree to disagree" part didn't have anything to do with it, and was towards the opinion of it being easier to spot the differences between the two sets. TiaHariberu found it easier to spot the differences between the Feast ones, I found it easier to spot the differences between the normal and savage ones.

When I say trophy, I mean all of the top 100 rewards, they're trophies for placing in the top 100. I don't mean just the first place reward (that is nowhere as easily visible as gear or a mount). But I can see how that would be unclear to you.

It was a play on words, but it seems humor is lost on you. You'll probably see this as backpedaling though.

I don't know how a big protruding golden wolf head is easily confused for a flat bronze-y eagle. This is probably the most distinguishing feature between the sets (there are others, but much more subtle).

Sure, if you zoom in to actually check it out. I already pointed out that the belt was different, in the previous page (are you gonna nitpick that I used the word "slightly", now?). Don't have to zoom in to see that someone's wearing a Gordias/Midas set in an entirely different color.

Just because you had no idea there were 2 sets (of which there are 2 variations for solo and party ranked), doesn't mean nobody else will.

I pointed out that there were minor differences between the two sets, obviously indicating that there were two sets. Did you even read my posts?

Gordias/Midas normal/savage is identical if not dyed... PVP sets have different themes/styles/colors, and dye differently. My S1 Solo coat dyed does not look the same as a S1 Party coat, even if the scheme is the same.

The main point to the savage gear, when it comes to aesthetics, is obviously to dye it. Who wouldn't dye it? It'd be like saying "Yea, all the S1 party coats look the same when not dyed"

"This could have been avoided", you mean, where you show everyone you don't know what you're talking about? I've been in Feast all night and I can clearly tell who's wearing S1 and who's wearing S2, it's clear as day.

"This could have been avoided" in the sense that multiple replies could've been avoided had TiaHariberu posted those screenshots right away. Y'know, since I'd have instantly agreed that I was wrong, instead of further questioning it. But I know it's shocking for you to see that I can agree to being wrong.

I felt it was important to reply to you, who was so sure they were right, and we were wrong.

You felt it was important to latch onto a part of my post where I happened to be wrong, seemingly ignoring the part where I talked about competition differences. Considering you don't have anything on that, I'm going to assume that I was completely right on that part. Thank you for your indirect validation of that.

[TDHCincy]

I also would like another method to obtain the mount.

[PArcher]

I also would like another method to obtain the mount.

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