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  1. #41
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    SE, if you do with this mount what you did with the minion, the next time you try to do a livestream PvP event and sit there waiting forever for any queues, or asking people to queue, or wondering why th content seems unpopular. . .

    THIS IS WHY.
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  2. #42
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    I got in the ranking today and I'm a terrible DRK (PvP), so... you still have hope.
    The only reason why I'm doing PvP since i think it's broken and unbalanced in MANY ways, thus not fun, it's because of the mount, which is the only thing actually being used to promote the Ranked matches.

    So... no.
    Keep it PvP exclusive, please.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    SE, if you do with this mount what you did with the minion, the next time you try to do a livestream PvP event and sit there waiting forever for any queues, or asking people to queue, or wondering why th content seems unpopular. . .

    THIS IS WHY.
    No amount of rewards will force people to do PvP if it's not fun.
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  4. #44
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    Your mileage may vary. I'm almost capped on Scripture tomes for the week already, largely from 8v8 Feast matches I HIGHLY enjoyed last night.

    PvP may not be for everyone, sure. But why do the rewards have to be? It certainly doesn't work the other way around. I can't use Wolf Marks to get upgrade items for Shire gear, or exchange them for scrips or MGP, or even a primal mount, old or new. But that's fair, right?

    That's cool, I guess since I actually like PvP and play it, I get no say. Let the people who arbitrarily hold negative opinions on it speak for those who do participate as the content is intended and actually enjoy it.
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  5. #45
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    PvP is actually very profitable for PvE currency. I earned maybe 20 millions selling Blood for Blood and Starved rolls with a lot of times being the only seller on marketboard, and sold a few Fenrir pups for 3m+ each. And before that for months I desynthed i70 pvp jewelry into Battlecraft IIIs. And I have all PvP mounts and gear sets except ranked. But does that make PvP with a bloat of 40 PvE skills+5/6 PvP skills any more fun, even worse with a controller? Is delayed network code when you die 2 seconds after popping Hallowed Ground or Benediction fun? Certianly not. How about that nonsense GC restriction in Frontlines which forces us to wait more for no reason? And do I need to mention how inbalanced are jobs there. There are many issues in FFXIV PvP since 2.1, many were addressed, but core problems, which make PvP here not fun as in other MMOs, are stillt here.
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  6. #46
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natashio View Post
    Well... you should of all just gotten into this thing when it first started. That is the way all achievement awards for PvP work.
    Guide the Maelstrom/Order of the Twin Adder/Immortal Flames to 100 Frontline victories. Reward: Storm/Serpent/Flame Warsteed Horn.
    Guide any of the three Grand Companies to a total of 200 Frontline victories. Reward: Logistics System Identification Key.
    Guide any of the three Grand Companies to a total of 100 Seal Rock campaign victories. Reward: Field Commander's Coat (Rest of the set from the previous achievements).
    Guide any of the three Grand Companies to a total of 100 Fields of Glory victories. Reward: Aerodynamics System Identification Key.
    Triumph in 200 matches at the Feast. Reward: Gloria Ignition Key

    Notice a pattern here? This is the way achievement awards for PvP have been working for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    SE, if you do with this mount what you did with the minion, the next time you try to do a livestream PvP event and sit there waiting forever for any queues, or asking people to queue, or wondering why th content seems unpopular. . .

    THIS IS WHY.
    First of all, we don't know what they'll do with the minion, because no one knows what achievement it'll be tied to. Second of all, the side that disagrees with the way this mount reward is being handles does come up with suggestions that aren't just "throw it onto the Wolf Marks vendor". In my case, that's a suggestion of two versions of the same mount. One with armor, and one without. It'll still be pretty clear which player has obtained the PvP version. As an added bonus, this'll also give SE more incentive to create mount rewards more often, since it'd be something made for both PvE and PvP, and thus have more people going for them.
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    Last edited by Nezerius; 11-24-2016 at 01:15 PM.

  7. #47
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    Overlord Mitron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I'd like to suggest, if it's not already in progress like the minion, that the mount be made available to more than just the top 100 PVP'ers. Even the ADS mount and the Warhorse are tied to number of overall wins in their various campaigns respectively -- not how high you rank on the ladder. If you want to tie it to PVP, that's fine - but let it follow a similar path as the other two mounts -- something a bit more attainable.
    I actually made a thread about this a while back with multiple suggestions on how we the average player - who doesn't have time to keep up in the top 100's could potentially get the mount and let me tell you.. Had a lot of PvP'ers fighting me over it.
    To the Devs: PvP Reward Ideas. [Feast Season Rewards]
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  8. #48
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    Shairi Nadezhda
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    Replacing the minion is at least somewhat understandable (because 95% of people want the mount anyway), although it got replaced by a pretty lame reward. Replacing the mount.. They obviously couldn't make a good reward by 3.55 for the minion. They definitely won't be able to make a good reward for the mount either, and that will really tick off all the current PvP players SE has currently gained their trust in after a really bad start to PvP.

    That is why they're PvPing in the first place.

    If SE can replace it with something meaningful and awesome, great. But we all know if they do, PvE players will just complain about wanting that next. SE can't really win, although they have in some sense because more players have been getting into PvP because of these rewards.

    No player in this game is going to quit playing because the Hellhound is PvP exclusive, but the top/dedicated PvP players would sooner quit if their rewards and efforts are made pointless again. For the third time.
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  9. #49
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    Olclessiy Yolmathaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    They should just make it so the reward stays for every season as long as you place top 100 you can get it in any season.

    They just need to change it to giving you a special token that you turn in for the mount so when they add more mounts you can pick which mount you want to exchange your top 100 placement token for.

    This way you can get any of the mounts in any season, but you can only pick one mount reward per season. You still need to do the work of getting in top 100 but the mount is still obtainable anytime in the future and doesn't have such a limited time span to obtain.
    yeaaah i have been suggesting this exact same thing for the rewards in almost every thread like this. and imma say you are wasting your time. the PvP community doesnt want this at all it seems cuz its still "devaluing" their "hard earned" prizes.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyllis View Post

    That is why they\\'re PvPing in the first place.

    If SE can replace it with something meaningful and awesome, great. But we all know if they do, PvE players will just complain about wanting that next. SE can\\'t really win, although they have in some sense because more players have been getting into PvP because of these rewards.

    No player in this game is going to quit playing because the Hellhound is PvP exclusive, but the top/dedicated PvP players would sooner quit if their rewards and efforts are made pointless again. For the third time.
    wow i should quite raiding. cuz its useless cuz everyone can get a cool ass mount and some nice gear and all that jazz when the new raid teir is out by just using brute force.
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