Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Fluffernuff]

I posted this in the mass pull thread thats blown up a it, but I'll pot the story here. I'd hate for a perfectly good DF story to go to waste! Some of you who have seen that thread will already know it, though. Oh well! Copy-Pasta! and edited so it's actually just the relevant story!




A few weeks back, I got into a level 60 roulette as a DRK. Got into arboretum....great, just GREAT. the only dungeon with a DPS check as a trash pull. Ugh...

Anyway, the 2 DPS were ninja and black mage. Ok, black mage is in assorted 250+ stuff (crafted and A-Normal trade ins right after the patch drop). So I assume this is their main and they have some proficiency. Ninja, however, is a first time and have the old Eso gear. At the time I secondary'd Ninja, so I hoped they understood they have SOME AoE damage to help out with every pull. But ultimately, they could be the best ninja to ever grace the game, and they wouldn't have made much a dent. 12 bless their heart though.

Well, I do the first big pull no problem. The pull takes alot longer than I'd like. Alot slower than is normal. that first pull took ~2-3 minutes. How do I know this? I got to use 2, TWO sole survivors in that pull. Ridiculously low damage. Ok I have an idea what kind of DPS we have now. only 1 more pack before the first boss; those like 5 or 6 fat....bulby things with like 400 HP. They died just as quickly as they always do.

No, the horror truly starts on the 1st boss. I'm not going to write out every little thing that pained my heart, so I'll summarize it in a way most of you can understand my horror;
5 turn cycles. Not a single Thunder DoT. No Slashing debuff. No mutilate/shadowfang.

I started piecing things together at this moment. The DPS was low! It was then that I did the unthinkable. It was then I committed heresy. A crime so vile as to get me removed from my tanking position for all eternity...

I only pulled one group at a time!

I know, I know. Please put away those torches, I have atoned for my sins. I have served for my crimes! But the damage was done! After the first pull and the boss, I was hyper-aware of my groups shortcomings and so I did another heinous act: I started watching the BLM's cast bars! I know! It was wrong of me to invade their privacy!
However, through this breach of personal information, I discovered an ice/fire3 only mage, and no AoE! (I know their AoE isn't all that amazing on 3 targets, but to not use ANY AoE? That can't be right...)

And then we were there. the onset of the honey run. I remembered the pain up until this moment. I KNEW without a doubt that we were not going to break that wall. If I were to do such a pull, we would all die. We WOULD all die and I was convinced that, even weakened from the first attempt, the wall would resist a second push. to prevent 2 wipes, I once again committed heresy and pulled only to each wall and focused on the trash mobs.

It was then my heresy was discovered. "Pull more already! Why arent we doing the full pulls here!?" The Black Mage knew! THEY KNEW! I had to respond. They would not like my response though... "We don't have the DPS for the full pull here. AoE has been lacking and the 1st boss lived too long." After that moment, the BLM would groan and gripe, but they started to actually pick it up! They were doing proper-looking BLM shenanigans! I ACTUALLY SAW A THUNDER DoT!

However, it did not stop them from being rather passive-aggressive, but overall no drama came of it.

[VanilleFang]

blasphemy

How dare you. Obviously you were supposed to tough it out. Like, don't you realize it doesn't matter how garbage your DPS is? You have to pull big, you have to. God, I can't even right now.

[Mysterysword]

Not a single Thunder DoT.

Not disputing the BLM's ridiculously poor playing, but Thunder has no place on the BLM rotation at 60, whether in single-target or AoE rotations. That's just time and MP I could be using to push out more Fire IV/Fire IIs instead.

The only time I ever use Thunder at level 60 is when I need to do a single-target rotation, but don't want to use Ley Lines/Enochian for fear of having them on cooldown at bosses.

[UnstablePersonality]

I gotta say a big thank you to the Mhach party I had this morning cause holy shit guys, best party I've had in Mhach since it released, I'd give 23 commendations if I could. Not only was killing forgall right after he finished casting Hellwind..but the fact that we managed to push Ozma so much that he was already in triangle form and casting his panel wide aoe when we got out of adds lol...(we wiped to this but laughed about it over how much we pushed him) 10/10 would run with again seriously.

[Hrimfaxi]

So yesterday i was doing A9 to get my bolt as a dragoon.

Everything was fine and we get to the boss. Then full metal faust came and the warrior tank grab it.
A few minutes later i was the one getting aggro. @@
Stop attacking for war to grab aggro back. He didnt do anything. No provoke, no overpower.
He grabs aggro, I grab aggro.
In the end i became a temporary tank until it goes down.
Got a comm at the end of that dungeon. XD

[ZhaneX]

I really hate how toxic this community can be sometimes.

Just queued up for Trial Roulette, and wound up in Nidhogg Story. Wiped at the adds since the tanks didn't grab aggro right. A NIN in the group tried to explain this...and was promptly shouted down as being an "Elitist ragging on newbies who might be learning the fight". When they pointed out the what a hypocritical oxymoron this was, they were subsequently accused of being a "Tumblr baby who needed their safe space".

At which point, I just left. I'll take the the half-hour penalty over having to deal with people having the most pointless, idiotic arguments like this.

[SaitoHikari]

I gotta say a big thank you to the Mhach party I had this morning cause holy shit guys, best party I've had in Mhach since it released, I'd give 23 commendations if I could. Not only was killing forgall right after he finished casting Hellwind..but the fact that we managed to push Ozma so much that he was already in triangle form and casting his panel wide aoe when we got out of adds lol...(we wiped to this but laughed about it over how much we pushed him) 10/10 would run with again seriously.

Hilariously enough this just happened in my own party a few minutes ago as well. I didn't even know that was possible.

(We actually survived, but that was something...)

[Frowny]

im still a little shocked that a party wiped in GL HM.

As am I but our healer had no idea how to use her class (and she had some i250 pieces), as did our NIN. I'm pretty sure the WAR did more DPS than the NIN so... a wipe was bound to happen.

Edit: Here's an odd one. Lvl 60 WHM in Snowcloak. Lore and Script gear except... 2 pieces had Intel 5 materias...

[VanilleFang]

I did a run of Qarn HM a few hours ago and... Why does this place hate me?

First things first. After the first big pull our DRG leaves. We got a BLM right away, but it was weird... Or so I thought.

So after we got a BLM to replace our DRG our team consisted of Me (WHM), a WAR, and 2 BLM so the tank pulled big. Yeah, I quickly realized why the DRG left. The WAR barely was at a pretty low ilvl. Like, all right side was ilvl 125ish grey, high quality items (including weapon), and all their left side were ilvl 90... except one of their rings which was lvl 39. Holy crap if they weren't squishy. So, all together, like ilvl 105 or something? I don't mind having low ilvl people, but why would she pull big if she's so squishy?

At one point, after she pulled a huge group right after the Cactuar boss, and I focused 100% on healing her until there was an opening to safely deal damage. I thought I had an opportunity when their were only 2 mobs left, both at about 10% HP. Yeah, I cast 1 Holy and she's down. WTF, how did she die in like 3.5 seconds?

The final boss was fun. So fun. I got turned into a mummy because the tank didn't stun the boss out of its laser thingy, and I had no time to cast Holy. So fun.

[Deathgiver]

Not disputing the BLM's ridiculously poor playing, but Thunder has no place on the BLM rotation at 60, whether in single-target or AoE rotations. That's just time and MP I could be using to push out more Fire IV/Fire IIs instead.

The only time I ever use Thunder at level 60 is when I need to do a single-target rotation, but don't want to use Ley Lines/Enochian for fear of having them on cooldown at bosses.

You should maybe head on over to the blm thread if you think thunder isn't used in the lvl 60 rotation. Top blm on a12s cast 11 thunders and used 17 tc procs during the course of the fight.