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  1. #6521
    Player
    Rhuazie's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhuaza Rihza
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 96
    A really sad one.

    Not really a df but still. I mightve made myself look like an arsehole lol.

    Rav ex farm. doing a few runs and whistle drops. I roll 98. I win. I get *SO EXCITED* and I yank my controller in the air...that was connected to my ps4....that fell to its side...and shut off.... I logged back in but I got an error so i had to restart my ps4. long story short, i was kicked from the party and sitting on my fat choco in idleshire.

    I tried looking their names in player search but couldnt find them. I tried to look back on pf too. I feel so bad lol.
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  2. #6522
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    Lyraele's Avatar
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    Lyraele Inglorion
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Since the relic made me do expert again, I know have to deal with pugs from time to time - some good, some... not so much.
    This evening me and a friend ran into a french couple in gulbal HM (I assume they were a couple - same last name, both french) - scholar and dragoon. Scholar starts off with overwriting my protect. Twice. To be sure, I guess.
    I'm not looking for trouble here, but I am genuinely curious about this as I've seen this complaint before but not really explained. Why do so many people seem to have a strong negative reaction to someone overwriting a buff like Protect/Stoneskin? Are those stronger when cast by one class vs another? Or influenced by a stat like MND or something? What's the damage done if someone fails to notice a buff and casts it again?
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  3. #6523
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    Fluffernuff's Avatar
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    Aethys Aeon
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyraele View Post
    I'm not looking for trouble here, but I am genuinely curious about this as I've seen this complaint before but not really explained. Why do so many people seem to have a strong negative reaction to someone overwriting a buff like Protect/Stoneskin? Are those stronger when cast by one class vs another? Or influenced by a stat like MND or something? What's the damage done if someone fails to notice a buff and casts it again?
    Protect is % based armor gain- it makes no difference if a 60 WHM casts it. or a PLD. or cross-classed on a level 1 MRD. Ultimately, it affects nothing, as it's at the start before any pulls. but it serves no purpose, so can be kinda annoying when you try to save time/mp for the healer when they could do other buffs, like stoneskin 2, or party shields and instead choose to override you. only really wastes your cast/cross-class slot, as if theirs is superior when it's not.
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    Last edited by Fluffernuff; 11-08-2016 at 04:09 PM.

  4. #6524
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Character
    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    It used to be that WHM's protects and stoneskins were more powerful, but the traits that gave the buffs were dropped and instead just made part of the spells from the start so all healers had equally powerful versions of the spells. But, this is really old info (it was only that way durimg the 2.0 days) and irrelevant to a SCH, anyway.


    Though, the spells themselves are very mana hungry, and it's just a waste to cast them over and over.
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  5. #6525
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Character
    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    It used to be that WHM's protects and stoneskins were more powerful, but the traits that gave the buffs were dropped and instead just made part of the spells from the start so all healers had equally powerful versions of the spells. But, this is really old info (it was only that way durimg the 2.0 days) and irrelevant to a SCH, anyway.


    Though, the spells themselves are very mana hungry, and it's just a waste to cast them over and over.
    Oh thanks for that info, because I'm back from a long time break, and I remember back then getting annoyed with people overwriting my WHM's buff. But then when I came back recently, I was looking at skills/traits description and I could not find anything that would explain why I did not like it before, thinking I must have been psycho back then xD
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  6. #6526
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    Apoptomon's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Tomac Eagleborne
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    So, lately I've been practising tanking in Levelling Roulette, and a few times recently there's been a party member hanging out with me in the front quarter of the enemies. I've had parties with clingy auto-following healers before, so that I guess I could understand, but I'm pretty sure these people have been MNKs.
    Now, my own MNK is only in the low 30s, so I can't make comments or judgements about high level play, but as far as I'm aware, MNK doesn't gain anything from being there.
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  7. #6527
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    ZhaneX's Avatar
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    Zana Amariyo
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I know that this is...extremely petty, and whiny, but all the same, I feel compelled to complain about it.

    So, weekly recent. Get the quest from the one creepy little girl to do 3 leveling roulettes for 10 of the singing clusters. Get into the first. Brayflox.
    Influx of 60s doing leveling for the same purpose, of course 3/4 in the party are level 60s.The one actually at-level doing it for EXP is the tank. And what does he do? Full clear. Pulls everything. Absolutely everything. Despite him being the only one to get any benefit from it.

    I know it's petty, but at 4am I found this too goddamn annoying.
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  8. #6528
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    Shika's Avatar
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    Character
    Ellana Trevelyan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    So, weekly recent. Get the quest from the one creepy little girl to do 3 leveling roulettes for 10 of the singing clusters. Get into the first. The one actually at-level doing it for EXP is the tank. And what does he do? Full clear. Pulls everything. Absolutely everything. Despite him being the only one to get any benefit from it.
    Have to say I disagree with your sentiment. People do DR/DF to level- if I wanted a quick clear just for the weekly book then I would have chosen to do it through PF. People are always putting up parties just to do a speed/unsynced clear for this stuff. I personally wouldn't expect anyone in DR or DF who is doing a dungeon at level to cater to my personal desires for a speed run when it is clear they are doing it to rank up/do storyline/clear map or whatever.
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  9. #6529
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    Lyraele's Avatar
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    Lyraele Inglorion
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    I know that this is...extremely petty, and whiny, but all the same, I feel compelled to complain about it.

    So, weekly recent. Get the quest from the one creepy little girl to do 3 leveling roulettes for 10 of the singing clusters. Get into the first. Brayflox.
    Influx of 60s doing leveling for the same purpose, of course 3/4 in the party are level 60s.The one actually at-level doing it for EXP is the tank. And what does he do? Full clear. Pulls everything. Absolutely everything. Despite him being the only one to get any benefit from it.

    I know it's petty, but at 4am I found this too goddamn annoying.
    Are you certain they even knew the difference between a "full clear" and a "speed run"? As someone leveling, I don't know any of that stuff, I just hit things and try to adapt to party feedback (if any).
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  10. #6530
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyraele View Post
    Are you certain they even knew the difference between a "full clear" and a "speed run"? As someone leveling, I don't know any of that stuff, I just hit things and try to adapt to party feedback (if any).
    Technically, you can do a sac method. I've only ever done it in Aurum Vale, but I don't see why it wouldn't work in Brayflox too.

    That is, you send the tank to pull everything and all mobs to the side, all the DPS/Heal run past to the boss entrance. Tank dies, healer raises tank, kill boss. Repeat.
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